Lila Rose

So I think public policy that does focus on that and, yeah, uses taxpayer money, I think that that's a wonderful thing.

And I do see that happening more on the right.

People are talking like this.

Well, but I mean, Vice President J.D.

Vance in his speech at the March for Life today was talking about making America a more welcoming place to raise a family, talking about, obviously, the Trump accounts, child tax credits.

We want to make birth easier to have children.

So that language is happening.

The policy is going to catch up more, and that's where we have to get concrete.

But I do see that more on the right than I've ever seen before in my lifetime.

Well, first of all, it's important to note that the exceptions, the rare cases for life-threatening emergencies, that they're coded that way anyways, or rape or incest are less than 3%, maybe even less than 1%.

So I think that's also just important ground to set that this has always been used in the political context and the media context as this is why we need abortion and then you get a million abortions a year and it's a small fraction.

So I think it is in the training of the doctor.

When a doctor is committed to both lives and is not secretly, I want to support abortion liberalization because that's my agenda that I have, I think it's a lot easier for a doctor to operate.

I think what we've seen in many of these cases that you're referencing, and we could get specific about one if you'd like,

There's a thousand different factors.

There's a lot of different factors, right?

And it is very easy to politicize these cases.

And that's what has happened again and again and again.

They've become politicized to say, well, in this case, this woman wasn't given care because of the pro-life law.

But you start to investigate.