Lily James Olds

I think that can do more change. And what role do you think governments, consumers, just period, consumers, what role do you think all of us have in this? I'm just curious, as you said, it's slow work, it's long-term work. You're doing it one conversation and test at a time. What else can be done to, I guess, speed up this process of change?

I think that touches on so much of this idea of how do you get people, and again this is climate crisis overall, how do you get people to care about something that they might not think affects their life? This is obviously a zoomed out much bigger question, but how do you think about that in terms of having these conversations with people

I tried to show that. No, that's so fascinating. So now we've talked about consumers, we've talked about miners. I'm also curious to hear from you, what role do you think, or I guess responsibility within that, do governments need to play? And also do the mining companies need to play? And what is that process of...

Creating movement there, trying to have those individuals and organizations create change.

Luulen, että kun sanot, Claudia, että emme voi syödä, syödä tai nukkua kultaa, niin se on todella vahva loppu, joka liittyy siihen, mitä puhumme. Tietysti monilla minääräisillä, jotka riippuvat kultaa, on tärkeää kysyä, mitä kestävällä tulevaisuudella näyttää. Se, mikä suojaisi Amazonin, pyrkii lopettamaan monipuolisen merkkipuolustuksen ja

Articulate connect the dots on how everything really is connected, how we all are connected. And these are not just problems happening somewhere else, that they are all of our problems. As you said, it's been really illuminating. Thank you. And also thank you for all the work that you guys are doing, because you guys are trying to show these stories. And thank you for that. It's a pleasure. Can't wait for the next conversation, Claudia.

Hey, Dion.

What up, Lily?

How you feeling?

I'm feeling great.

I'm excited to talk to you today.

So I'm going to jump right in and ask.

You talk about the traditional food pantry model as being unchanged for decades and, you know, really not prioritizing the experience of the person using it.

What is missing or outdated in those traditional pantry models that made you do things differently?

No, I think that's so smart.

And I think this also makes me think about when you say, who am I to fight capitalism?

And I feel like you're working in such strategic ways within this system and economic model that we all exist in.

I'm curious to hear you go a little bit deeper and hear how you think about how you do think about

working within that system strategically as a social entrepreneur?

Well, I think, I mean, it's so funny you say that because I think one of the things in the conversations we've had that's really stood out to me is also the bureaucracy of it.