Lionel Shriver

But it was like,

There was so much anger on the immigration front that the country voted to do something drastic.

Right?

And were willing to take a kind of risk that I thought was very un-British.

That's true.

The British have always been a slow to anger population and very orderly, oriented towards the status quo, and not into radical change.

So that's one reason that vote really astonished me, because it was outside the popular character.

But it was very specifically to do with immigration and none of the other votes had helped.

So let's try this.

There's one character in the book I especially like.

It's, he's a side character.

His name is Alonzo.

You remember him?

And Alonzo is,

thinks that most Americans are incredibly gullible and don't give immigrants credit for being conniving, right?

For knowing how to game the system, both the immigration system and the benefit system.

And he's very good at it.

He's an excellent and very clever shyster and proud of it.

And he thinks that Americans are fools.

And he says, you know,