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Lisa Bodell

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Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

I like to get rid of things and only keep the things that have meaning. And one of the best things like that Marie Kondo ever did was, and this is a key difference. She didn't just organize things, right? Because being organized is not being simplified. Those are different. She didn't go in and just organize your closet.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

I like to get rid of things and only keep the things that have meaning. And one of the best things like that Marie Kondo ever did was, and this is a key difference. She didn't just organize things, right? Because being organized is not being simplified. Those are different. She didn't go in and just organize your closet.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

She got rid of the things that were cluttering it up, that were getting in the way of the things that you enjoyed. And then organized everything, what was left. And that's the key thing for people is it's not about organizing. It's about simplifying. And getting rid of it is really important. If you could just go through and get rid of half your stuff, your life would transform.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

She got rid of the things that were cluttering it up, that were getting in the way of the things that you enjoyed. And then organized everything, what was left. And that's the key thing for people is it's not about organizing. It's about simplifying. And getting rid of it is really important. If you could just go through and get rid of half your stuff, your life would transform.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

I'd even say get rid of 10% of your stuff. Your life would transform. The weight comes off you because you feel less of a mental heaviness being burdened by things that don't add any value to your life. They clutter you from using the things that have meaning. you will feel more relaxed because that's the secret about simplicity, which is simplicity is not about organizing.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

I'd even say get rid of 10% of your stuff. Your life would transform. The weight comes off you because you feel less of a mental heaviness being burdened by things that don't add any value to your life. They clutter you from using the things that have meaning. you will feel more relaxed because that's the secret about simplicity, which is simplicity is not about organizing.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

It is about focusing on what matters and it is about being able to use more of what matters. That includes your time. The other thing is it is a You see it in yourself and you see it at work. It impacts the culture because people feel more valued. They're spending their time on things that they feel are worth it. It is a mental health imperative. People feel less stressed. They feel more focused.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

It is about focusing on what matters and it is about being able to use more of what matters. That includes your time. The other thing is it is a You see it in yourself and you see it at work. It impacts the culture because people feel more valued. They're spending their time on things that they feel are worth it. It is a mental health imperative. People feel less stressed. They feel more focused.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

They feel happier when things are simplified. And that's important for us as people and as leaders to know as well.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

They feel happier when things are simplified. And that's important for us as people and as leaders to know as well.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

I think it has never been more important for us to build human skills because AI will be able to do lots of tasks for us. But what it can't do are the things that, yet, the things that are inherently human. Being curious, right? Asking the right question, right, with prompts. AI can give you lots of answers, but you have to know how to ask good questions. Being very creative.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

I think it has never been more important for us to build human skills because AI will be able to do lots of tasks for us. But what it can't do are the things that, yet, the things that are inherently human. Being curious, right? Asking the right question, right, with prompts. AI can give you lots of answers, but you have to know how to ask good questions. Being very creative.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

AI, I'm a writer, and I put things into AI all the time, into ChatGPT or into Gemini. And it gets you a good start and it can organize my thinking, but I'm a better writer. I'm more human. I can connect on a meaning level. It doesn't, it also isn't good with humor or play on words. those little nuances that only humans can relate to.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

AI, I'm a writer, and I put things into AI all the time, into ChatGPT or into Gemini. And it gets you a good start and it can organize my thinking, but I'm a better writer. I'm more human. I can connect on a meaning level. It doesn't, it also isn't good with humor or play on words. those little nuances that only humans can relate to.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

So I think teaching those kinds of skills that are creative, curious, agility, empathy, those are really great skills that AI can't give you yet. And I think it's never been more important to teach those as part of leaders at every level. I hope that companies start to shift towards that. There's too much depth in technical skills and not enough in human skills.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

So I think teaching those kinds of skills that are creative, curious, agility, empathy, those are really great skills that AI can't give you yet. And I think it's never been more important to teach those as part of leaders at every level. I hope that companies start to shift towards that. There's too much depth in technical skills and not enough in human skills.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

We've got a good approach, I'll say, because this is what we do. We help people be future ready, that's what we like to say, by teaching these human-centered skills or what we call power skills. They used to be called soft skills, right? I think that's a passe term now, you know, because they're not soft makes them seem weak.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

We've got a good approach, I'll say, because this is what we do. We help people be future ready, that's what we like to say, by teaching these human-centered skills or what we call power skills. They used to be called soft skills, right? I think that's a passe term now, you know, because they're not soft makes them seem weak.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

And actually, I believe these human-centered skills are what make you stronger. That's important to know. And they are less skill. They are skills, but they're more mindsets, to your point. Having an agility mindset, a resilience approach, a curiosity mindset. Those are different than having an AI skill because they're how you approach certain things.

Chief Change Officer
#386 Lisa Bodell: Stop Drowning in Complexity—How Simplicity Fuels Innovation — Part Two

And actually, I believe these human-centered skills are what make you stronger. That's important to know. And they are less skill. They are skills, but they're more mindsets, to your point. Having an agility mindset, a resilience approach, a curiosity mindset. Those are different than having an AI skill because they're how you approach certain things.