Lisa Kayes

It really does take, I think, a certain sense of self-worth and confidence to be able to feel like you can say, this is what I need to do for me.

I think when we get caught up in people-pleasing and being too polite, that's when things can really go south.

And so the more direct and just clear, then everybody has a good time.

I don't want to be on a clock.

Like I for me, the meaning of vacation is not being on a clock.

But I've learned that for other people, it's seeing what they want to see and getting to do it.

And, you know, to do that in a short period of time, you sometimes have to be scheduled.

But again, it's like just balancing that so that the whole thing is not on a clock.

But I think if I know like, OK, two days of this are going to be scheduled, but then I get my reward like sit around day.

It's usually like a really fun mix.

Here's therapist Lisa Case.

I think that we can underestimate sometimes the stress that goes on when we're traveling and then sort of have it comes out in these many nervous breakdowns that you have.

When you're traveling, every single thing is a new decision and it's exhausting.

Even if it's fun and even if you're having a great time, it is a bit of an assault on your body and your mind.

And so I think the way that we discharge some of that is by going a little crazy over chicken wings.

And, you know, it happens to the best of us.

When we travel, we tend to let go of all of our self-care.

But asking yourself, like, you know, could I get up and do like three yoga poses and maybe that would help me kind of reset?

Can I take this one practice that I do at home with me?

On the road so that I have some sort of touchstone and some grounding to my old self and to my comfortable self, you know, or can I listen to like, you know, my three songs that I always listen to on the radio or can I read whatever book like what can you take with you so that you're not completely abandoning yourself and your life.