Lisa Miller

And would you be open to a visit from me?

Yeah.

Okay.

And it became a long relationship.

in which I was probing and probing and probing about how these medications were changing the dynamics in their marriage.

So tell me more about that.

How were the drugs affecting their marriage?

Well, I think maybe it's helpful to talk first about what their relationship was like before the drugs.

And it goes back to high school.

They both grew up in Sacramento.

What did you notice about her?

Like, what made you like her?

He was a football player and also in the band.

And so at that time in high school, how would you have described your own body?

She was like in a bigger body and excruciatingly self-conscious about that.

And she would say that she became like a super competent pleaser on all the clubs, doing all the things in order to compensate for the way she felt about her body.

And he had a crush on her.

And they both told me this story about how in high school there was this band performance in town and he offered to walk her to her car.

It was as though she couldn't believe that he liked her in that way.

Because she was insecure?