Lisa Wilkinson

Employ 21-year-olds.

Well, really great people, in particular a photographer called Graeme Shearer and his stylist wife, Pasha.

And-

we just completely transformed the look of the magazine and made it really contemporary for the early 80s.

And that was when Kerry Packer, in this very building, name knocking, wanting me to come and run Clio.

So I left Fairfax to join ACP, Australian Consolidated Press, and the Packer organisation in 1985.

And my office was literally down the end of this hall.

And I've just walked in there for the first time in

20 years.

That's the real.

I mean, I said to the girls when I walked in, I said, I used to work so hard in this office and it was a joy.

I'm not complaining about it.

I loved that job.

But that same view of those trees in Hyde Park and I knew what month of the year, what season of the year it was by looking at the leaves, the colour of the leaves on the trees and

Hyde Park.

I mean, nothing but beautiful memories.

I also used to breast pump in that office.

So there's lots and lots of memories tied up with that room and this building.

No, no, not at all.

And particularly at Dolly because we had that page called Poet's Corner.