Listener (Aaron)

So if her first response is different from what you want, take a deep breath, make room for that, and just remind yourself that this conversation will continue. The next day, she might come back to you in a new way, or a week later, she might go, look, I'm really angry at you for not telling me about this sooner, but I've thought about it and I do understand. So let's keep talking.

So if her first response is different from what you want, take a deep breath, make room for that, and just remind yourself that this conversation will continue. The next day, she might come back to you in a new way, or a week later, she might go, look, I'm really angry at you for not telling me about this sooner, but I've thought about it and I do understand. So let's keep talking.

So if her first response is different from what you want, take a deep breath, make room for that, and just remind yourself that this conversation will continue. The next day, she might come back to you in a new way, or a week later, she might go, look, I'm really angry at you for not telling me about this sooner, but I've thought about it and I do understand. So let's keep talking.

Both of your abilities to make room for multiple feelings here, that's going to play a huge role in how you guys navigate this together.

Both of your abilities to make room for multiple feelings here, that's going to play a huge role in how you guys navigate this together.

Both of your abilities to make room for multiple feelings here, that's going to play a huge role in how you guys navigate this together.

I know we've gone very deep on this question. It's such a fascinating and complicated one. But there is one more important thing we have to touch on, which is this thing that he said, how he's on friendly terms with his dad because he's done a lot of serious personal work on himself. And he also said he tends to be super forgiving toward people, in his words, to avoid harboring resentment.

I know we've gone very deep on this question. It's such a fascinating and complicated one. But there is one more important thing we have to touch on, which is this thing that he said, how he's on friendly terms with his dad because he's done a lot of serious personal work on himself. And he also said he tends to be super forgiving toward people, in his words, to avoid harboring resentment.

I know we've gone very deep on this question. It's such a fascinating and complicated one. But there is one more important thing we have to touch on, which is this thing that he said, how he's on friendly terms with his dad because he's done a lot of serious personal work on himself. And he also said he tends to be super forgiving toward people, in his words, to avoid harboring resentment.

We got to talk about that. Yeah, I have a lot of questions about that myself. So obviously I'm very interested in the process your father went through in confronting what he did, addressing whatever pathology or whatever trauma led him to do something so terrible to his own children.

We got to talk about that. Yeah, I have a lot of questions about that myself. So obviously I'm very interested in the process your father went through in confronting what he did, addressing whatever pathology or whatever trauma led him to do something so terrible to his own children.

We got to talk about that. Yeah, I have a lot of questions about that myself. So obviously I'm very interested in the process your father went through in confronting what he did, addressing whatever pathology or whatever trauma led him to do something so terrible to his own children.

I mean, look, we could be charitable and say that maybe this meditation practice was so deep that it forced him to confront all of the things that led him to abuse his children. And now he sees his mind more clearly and he's made progress somehow. But I'm with you. This is the kind of thing that typically requires therapy, deep therapy. because it is so dark. It's so violent. It's so complex.

I mean, look, we could be charitable and say that maybe this meditation practice was so deep that it forced him to confront all of the things that led him to abuse his children. And now he sees his mind more clearly and he's made progress somehow. But I'm with you. This is the kind of thing that typically requires therapy, deep therapy. because it is so dark. It's so violent. It's so complex.

I mean, look, we could be charitable and say that maybe this meditation practice was so deep that it forced him to confront all of the things that led him to abuse his children. And now he sees his mind more clearly and he's made progress somehow. But I'm with you. This is the kind of thing that typically requires therapy, deep therapy. because it is so dark. It's so violent. It's so complex.

I just don't know if I buy that meditation alone, however profound, could have transformed him.

I just don't know if I buy that meditation alone, however profound, could have transformed him.

I just don't know if I buy that meditation alone, however profound, could have transformed him.

I mean, again, with respect for this meditation practice, which does sound like it's been very powerful for you, and I'm glad to hear that. It's just not something I would personally point to and say, I think we can be confident that dad is safe for our child. Now he's healed. We can bring our family around him. I just don't know.

I mean, again, with respect for this meditation practice, which does sound like it's been very powerful for you, and I'm glad to hear that. It's just not something I would personally point to and say, I think we can be confident that dad is safe for our child. Now he's healed. We can bring our family around him. I just don't know.