Liv Hewson

Oh, I'm pro 100 percent of the time. Yes, that's awesome.

Oh, I'm pro 100 percent of the time. Yes, that's awesome.

Oh, I'm pro 100 percent of the time. Yes, that's awesome.

Well, I mean, I think about this a lot in media and that in media, I think we don't see it a lot because of homophobia and because of like the lack of like three dimensional actual exploration of various kinds of queer relationships.

Well, I mean, I think about this a lot in media and that in media, I think we don't see it a lot because of homophobia and because of like the lack of like three dimensional actual exploration of various kinds of queer relationships.

Well, I mean, I think about this a lot in media and that in media, I think we don't see it a lot because of homophobia and because of like the lack of like three dimensional actual exploration of various kinds of queer relationships.

But then in real life, I'm like, I see it. I see it in real life, I feel. But I also don't want to speak to what that experience is out of school. But yeah, I feel like I see it. And I also feel like there's a pretty strong history of butch-for-butch relationships in the queer community. For sure.

But then in real life, I'm like, I see it. I see it in real life, I feel. But I also don't want to speak to what that experience is out of school. But yeah, I feel like I see it. And I also feel like there's a pretty strong history of butch-for-butch relationships in the queer community. For sure.

But then in real life, I'm like, I see it. I see it in real life, I feel. But I also don't want to speak to what that experience is out of school. But yeah, I feel like I see it. And I also feel like there's a pretty strong history of butch-for-butch relationships in the queer community. For sure.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

There's some beautiful writing about Butch on Butch relationships that S. Baird Bergman wrote. I can't remember in which book now, but I read it last year. And it's gorgeous. And it's hot.

There's some beautiful writing about Butch on Butch relationships that S. Baird Bergman wrote. I can't remember in which book now, but I read it last year. And it's gorgeous. And it's hot.

There's some beautiful writing about Butch on Butch relationships that S. Baird Bergman wrote. I can't remember in which book now, but I read it last year. And it's gorgeous. And it's hot.

Well, and I would go a step further, too, and say that particularly in the early 2000s, a lot of those images were not of femmes. They were of straight women.

Well, and I would go a step further, too, and say that particularly in the early 2000s, a lot of those images were not of femmes. They were of straight women.

Well, and I would go a step further, too, and say that particularly in the early 2000s, a lot of those images were not of femmes. They were of straight women.

Oh, sorry. Mackenzie. Butch people are invisibilized in culture generally because of homophobia and because of misogyny and how those things intersect and because of desirability politics, which is stupid and bullshit because it shows a failure of imagination of desire and of the erotic because it's like, baby, there are ways to be sexy that would make your fucking head spin. Tell us about them.

Oh, sorry. Mackenzie. Butch people are invisibilized in culture generally because of homophobia and because of misogyny and how those things intersect and because of desirability politics, which is stupid and bullshit because it shows a failure of imagination of desire and of the erotic because it's like, baby, there are ways to be sexy that would make your fucking head spin. Tell us about them.