Liv Hewson

Oh, sorry. Mackenzie. Butch people are invisibilized in culture generally because of homophobia and because of misogyny and how those things intersect and because of desirability politics, which is stupid and bullshit because it shows a failure of imagination of desire and of the erotic because it's like, baby, there are ways to be sexy that would make your fucking head spin. Tell us about them.

Period. What are they? Butch people are so hot. Yes. And our wider culture takes them for granted and so when two butch people are together... mainstream heterosexual culture. It's like, what? I don't... Oh, okay.

Period. What are they? Butch people are so hot. Yes. And our wider culture takes them for granted and so when two butch people are together... mainstream heterosexual culture. It's like, what? I don't... Oh, okay.

Period. What are they? Butch people are so hot. Yes. And our wider culture takes them for granted and so when two butch people are together... mainstream heterosexual culture. It's like, what? I don't... Oh, okay.

I saw a good piece of art once that was just like text on a background that was like, why are so many straight women with men when they could be with a real butch lesbians? Yes. Yes. And it just kind of a total inversion of that language. Oh, I like that a lot.

I saw a good piece of art once that was just like text on a background that was like, why are so many straight women with men when they could be with a real butch lesbians? Yes. Yes. And it just kind of a total inversion of that language. Oh, I like that a lot.

I saw a good piece of art once that was just like text on a background that was like, why are so many straight women with men when they could be with a real butch lesbians? Yes. Yes. And it just kind of a total inversion of that language. Oh, I like that a lot.

Because that is always the argument that I'm seeing. Why do men want to dress like butch people so much? Yeah. Why do you? I mean, especially at the moment where like a lot of a lot of the hippest menswear is just stuff that dykes have been doing. For years. Yes. Yeah. One hundred percent. Like people just don't get it and lack curiosity about it. Yeah.

Because that is always the argument that I'm seeing. Why do men want to dress like butch people so much? Yeah. Why do you? I mean, especially at the moment where like a lot of a lot of the hippest menswear is just stuff that dykes have been doing. For years. Yes. Yeah. One hundred percent. Like people just don't get it and lack curiosity about it. Yeah.

Because that is always the argument that I'm seeing. Why do men want to dress like butch people so much? Yeah. Why do you? I mean, especially at the moment where like a lot of a lot of the hippest menswear is just stuff that dykes have been doing. For years. Yes. Yeah. One hundred percent. Like people just don't get it and lack curiosity about it. Yeah.

But that's not like butch and mask people's fault. Like you you keep loving and fucking and having relationships anyway. And like everybody else will fucking figure it out.

But that's not like butch and mask people's fault. Like you you keep loving and fucking and having relationships anyway. And like everybody else will fucking figure it out.

But that's not like butch and mask people's fault. Like you you keep loving and fucking and having relationships anyway. And like everybody else will fucking figure it out.

Exactly. Yeah. My God.

Exactly. Yeah. My God.

Exactly. Yeah. My God.

Which one's left? Is left yes or no?

Which one's left? Is left yes or no?

Which one's left? Is left yes or no?

It's a yes. I actually don't remember.