Liz Dzeng
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first heard Oct 2020
last heard Dec 2023
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This is such such an honor to be able to talk to you guys about this paper.
Thank you.
It's great to be here.
Yeah, I think that um in my experience as a hospitalist, um, you know, when you asked what what are the conservators usually like, I was thinking back on my own experiences and actually what I could remember were the experiences of trying to get a conservator and how it takes months.
And then the patient is like, you know, stuck in the hospital for months while we're trying to figure out what's going on.
So there's also the legal process of trying to establish one that can be quite challenging.
Yeah, and I also was sort of thinking that like, I mean, and this goes to sort of what I'd like to talk about later in terms of um the way we think about autonomy and substituted judgment, but
With families, there's sort of this inherent notion that like, okay, they're going to generally do substituted judgment, they know the patient.
And so, you know, we are more okay with accepting that, I think.
Whereas if if it's a conservator, you're thinking, okay, this is part of the system, it's the healthcare system.
And it's a little bit more less personal.
And so you're sort of like when when there's a decision that you don't think is consistent with what's clinically appropriate, you're like, oh, this is like the system.
You know, rather than like, Okay, this is what the patient and the family may have wanted.
So I'm wondering if that's maybe a
Maybe I
that as well.
Um, yeah, so substituted judge so so I guess um
Substituted judgment really uh focus on focuses on the ethical principle of autonomy, um, which is one of four ethical principles, the others being beneficence or acting in the best interest of the patient, non-maleficence doing no harm, and justice.
And in the United States, we have this um tremendous focus on autonomy for various reasons.
And so um substituted judgment is an attempt to um pass that autonomy on to
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