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Liz Lopatto

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259 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

So I'm like, all right, which VCs are going to be catching strays here?

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Because like...

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Those are also people who potentially can be very embarrassed by stuff that comes out just in the course of having this discussion of what happened on this timeline.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

No, I don't think you are.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Although I will say I think that the New Yorker article came out when it did in part because of this case.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Right.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Like, you know, my my read of this and this is just like as a person who also does reporting is that when I got to the part about the dossier, I was like, oh, someone sent Roman Ronan Farrow this dossier.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

And he was like, OK, how much of this can I substantiate?

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

And the answer was like the most egregious claims were false.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

And like there's a point at which Altman actually thanks him for like looking into, you know, these allegations where he's like, well, at least somebody like looked into it and said, like, that's not real.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

It's really hard to prove a negative.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

But like if anybody is going to find, you know, misconduct, like Ronan Farrow is pretty good at it.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

That's all you can ask for.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

So, you know, that is my understanding of the genesis of the story.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

You would have to ask Ronan Farrow to figure out if that's true.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

But just thinking about how reporters work, and at least how I work, if somebody sent me a dossier like that, I'd be like,

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

Ooh, that's juicy.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

And then I would try to substantiate it.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

So, you know, that's my guess.

The Vergecast
Musk and Altman go to court

And like when they didn't, when he didn't turn up like the misconduct allegations that are in there, I imagine in that process, he started to turn up this stuff where it's like, well, Sam will say anything to keep people happy.