Liz Plank

Women were starting to be respected and have sort of, you know, this sort of equal place.

Or at least there was this belief that was sort of like you weren't supposed to say women are inferior, at least.

Like you were supposed to at least publicly say like, yeah, women are equal to men.

And I do think that we took it a little far.

I do think that then it just became this capitalist definition of feminism, this very white feminist definition of you can have kids and be the boss and sleep four hours a day because you'll be fine.

You have a brown or black nanny.

It was not realistic as an ideal, and it was very elite and very white.

and i do think a lot of women burnt out from it i myself did i mean um samita mukhopai who was one of the founders of feministing another amazing blog um from the 2010s i mean she wrote an entire book about it she was the you know she made it she was the executive editor of team vogue and had been you know at the helm of all these different media companies and yeah we all burnt out and and so in a way this is my admission in a moment of vulnerability i will be honest like

I'm not a trad wife.

I'm not, I would need like a husband and like many other, you know, I would need like to own my home and like have a bunch of cows.

Yeah, I'm not even a trad girlfriend, but like I, because part of the trad wife movement has been sort of tangential in any kind of extreme, you know, sort of movement.

There's also like smaller, more like, I don't even know how to describe it, but like less, I guess, radical portions of it.

And one of them is the stay-at-home girlfriend, right?

well i was about to say my dream is to be a stay-at-home girlfriend right when i see those across my feed i i'd be like this girl and then i look at her day and i'm like i i kind of wish i could that could be my life you know part of it is that we're all trying to escape the hellscape of living especially in the united states you know in in a country where you have to work just to afford to be alive maybe

Or if you're James Van Der Beek and you are literally living the American dream, you still need to create a GoFundMe after you've already died to pay for your expenses, right?

She killed him, okay.

Okay, I did not see that portion of the discourse.

That's really sad.

Okay.

Okay.