Liz Plank

But there's no evidence he wasn't.

Oh, that's really interesting.

Yeah, yeah.

And, you know, I went to a Turning Point conference a few months before Charlie Kirk was killed.

i they kicked me out so i wasn't allowed to why did they kick you out well i mean why'd they kick you out because i do podcasts like these i don't know uh no like they they yeah really i really tried to get in and i paid actually like they owe me like several hundred dollars that ticket was expensive but whatever was it was it the was it the tp usa one in dallas no it was in um

fucking tampa dude in the summer yeah i don't i blacked out for half of it no it was the one where like um they taught where where tucker carlson gave that speech where he was like hey you can't afford your house like that sucks you know it gave a very sort of left-wing kind of speech and and and where the epstein file stuff also like a lot of some of them even spoke out about and i think charlie kirk spoke out about the epstein files on stage um

It's like, yeah, people are unhappy, right?

And it's a normal part of being alive.

Suffering is a normal part of the human condition.

And I think what we've been seeing is, I mean, I think a lot, sorry to make this whole conversation about the 2010s, but the internet in the 2010s, one of the big differences with it now

is sure there was always optimization and monetization, right?

There were tech bros wanting to make money and like, you know, all those things, right?

Mark Zuckerberg didn't start Facebook out of like the kindness of his own heart to, you know, bring people together.

But,

the internet wasn't as much of a place to monetize everything.

And the perfect example of that for me is couchsurfing.

Do you guys remember couchsurfing?

So Gen Z people have no idea that this existed.

Basically, I'm like, oh, it was Airbnb, but it was free.

And they look at me and they're like, I'm sorry, what?