Lizzie O'Shea

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78 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 15 Jul

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I think more broadly, there's a question around how you ensure that the productivity benefits, the gains and the like are retained in Australia.
And that might be through things like taxation of some of these large companies as well.
That's a much more tricky and contested policy space, but I think that's what Australians sort of expect from their government is
taking on some of these large, very profitable industries and making sure that they're not just extracting from Australian society, that they're actually returning benefit to where they're creating it, which is here.
Yeah, I think that's a great question.
So one of the issues that's in dispute, of course, is copyright protection.
That was touched on by the Prime Minister.
One of the barriers to training some of these models, like Anthropic's model, is protections for creative works that mean that how they operate in places like the United States wouldn't be considered legal here.
I think there's lots of things about the current copyright regime that creatives don't like, other people don't like, but there's also a really serious problem with very large companies, companies like Anthropic, taking the hard work of people who've done that creative labour that we all benefit from, like I think a luff or a society without artists would be a terrible thing, right?
And allowing those companies to make immense profits and to grow immensely quickly off the benefit of that work without paying compensation for it, without seeking permission.
I mean, it should be said that copyright is not just also about paying.
It's also about seeking permission and having that moral right is what it's called in legal terms to say how your work might be used, right?
So it's also about creative freedom.
So it is a watershed moment, I think, how the government responds to this immense pressure from a very large company
Australia's been consistent in denying that they were going to tinker with copyright laws or raise it as a possible policy alternative.
But as time goes on, you do wonder whether we've got an unstoppable force meeting and a movable object.
Something's going to have to give.
And
I also remain concerned about some of these deals happening behind closed doors.
There's a real incentive here to disguise what is going on or to limit what the public sees and negotiations occur with these very large companies who've built up a lot of capital by doing a lot of different things by being involved in
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