Lizzo
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Hey, I'm Jay Shetty. This episode, Lizzo opens up like never before about self-love, transformation, and finding real peace in a world that constantly tries to define you.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Phone Paux
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Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Phone Paux
It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing. It's true.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Phone Paux
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I feel like I've been kind of holding my tongue and like staying to myself. But I think that it's for the best. Yeah.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
because you know running your mouth these days sometimes it's just unnecessary and sometimes it can get you into some stuff you wasn't even trying to get into because people will misinterpret it and run with it as I found when I was like I'm taking a gap year I'm protecting my peace but like people were like wait so what's that supposed to mean I'm like oh oops I just I just I just wanted to let you guys know we're on that right now I'm in Bali and I'm having a good time and I'm just like quiet oops maybe I should have stayed quiet
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
What I feel like people don't know is when you are a music artist, you are either on cycle or off cycle for an album. I think nowadays there's so much fast turnaround with music and there's like the deluxe of an album is kind of like a industry standard that I think we've forgotten like what it means to be on cycle and off cycle because everyone's always on. I had planned on being off cycle.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
That means you're not in the media. You're not doing interviews. Your album cycle is done. You're not going to be played on the radio as much because people aren't working your records. You're not going to be promoting anything because you're working on the next album. So you can be on cycle and you can be back in the media and back in the press and back on tour.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I think the best, most simplest answer as to why I'm back now is because my album's done. This is my job. I am a musical artist. I make studio albums. I put them out. I promote them. I tour them. And I do it because I'm really good at music and I really want to help people with music because I know that music has saved my life. So I know it can save someone else's life. You know what I mean?
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I think that's like the most simple answer. But I think it's loaded this time because at the exact same time, I was like, I'm going on a vacation. I'm going to be in Japan. I'm going to go to Kyoto and be in the woods and like disappear. I also had a huge scandal come out.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I think that it looked like I was shut down or silenced or hiding when really it was like, but it's just the end of my album cycle and this was planned. So I think this album cycle, I'm going to have to do a lot of work that I'm cool with. And expressing that and explaining that because I don't think people knew or know the difference between me being like, oh, I'm off cycle. I'm in Japan.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I'm in the woods and I'm meditating. And, oh, this scandal just happened. Where's Lizzo? You know what I mean? So I'm aware of that. I'm cognizant of it. And I'm up for the challenge of explaining this to the people who care about me because they deserve to know, honestly. Yeah.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Yes.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Baby. When I, the last day of my tour was in Tokyo. I spent a whole month in Tokyo, in Kyoto. It was my first time in Japan. It was my dream place. I always wanted to go to the South. I was a little girl watching anime. I took that time. I stepped foot back into America and I walked into the studio. I've been in the studio since October, 2023. And I think I finished my last studio session for...
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Love In Real Life, last week when I mastered it, I've been working constantly this whole time. I didn't take no time off. I couldn't, I really honestly couldn't. I took that little time in Japan that I allowed it for myself and I got in the kitchen and I rolled my sleeves up because I knew I was going to have to do my biggest one, you know?
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Thank you.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Everything that I do, I pull from the strife and the grief that happens to me because the joy that I find eventually, I think, is the helpful part. I've never named an album before writing a song before. Like, well, "'Cause I Love You," I wrote "'Cause I Love You." I was like, okay, this sounds like the thesis of the album. Okay, we're going to call this album "'Cause I Love You."
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I wrote Special, and I was like, this sounds like the heart of the album. I'm going to name this album Special. When I say I've had the name Love & Real Life since... September, October, 2023. And I didn't write the record love in real life until maybe like February, 2024, because I had a very specific experience and I'd love to share it. I want to talk about it as much as I can.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I, and I never like repeating stories because I just feel like everyone's different. And I'm like, let me get you something different. But this story was so life safe, like life changing. I was, I told you, when I was in Japan, I was doing the best I can, but there was a huge scandal I was dealing with a lot.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
When I touched down in Los Angeles, it didn't hit me how deeply affected I was because I had been trying to be happy for everyone else. My best friend was there with her kids and I was trying to be happy for everybody. I was like, and I'm in Japan, I should be happy. So I was like, be happy. I got in LA. I had my first panic attack ever. I was in the car coming home from the airport.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I think what I learned about fame is even if that's really me, it just becomes kind of like character. It's a brand that now doesn't belong to you anymore. There was a huge scandal I was dealing with a lot. Sometimes I feel like the world just don't love me back. I had my first panic attack ever. And I had this thought. I was just like, you want to die? OK, we'll just die. Like, nobody will care.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I was like, something's wrong with my chest. And I was like, okay. And I've dealt with anxiety for years. But this felt different. And I was like, okay, something's going on with my chest. And I was like, okay, do your anxiety protocol. And anxiety protocol wasn't working. like breathing and the circular breath. And I was like, no, something is pressing on my chest. And I had this thought.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I was just like, everybody hates me. Everybody hates me for something that isn't true. But at the end of the day, because of the position I'm in, everybody hates me and there's nothing you can do about it. And I was like, okay. I got into the house. I could barely walk And I, like, collapsed by my bed and was like, oh, shit. I couldn't breathe.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I was like... And I was by the bed and I couldn't breathe and something was pressing on my chest. And from then on, I had been in a state of depression because I didn't know how to fix it. I was so... And I'm not trying to make nobody feel bad for me, but man... baby, I was dark and I was scared of people. I was like, I was like, you can't trust anyone. You can't love anyone.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I don't want to talk to nobody, you know, because there was like a lot going on where like people were getting weird phone calls from people. And it was like weird, like stuff going on that I had never experienced before. Because I was like, this is wild. This is a whole nother level of my job that I've never experienced. And so I was scared.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I was like, I'm going to go to this concert because I really wanted to go to the concert. And I was terrified to go. I was like, I know I'm going to walk out and somebody's going to look at me and be like... And I was just like, and there's nothing you can do about it. But I went anyway.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And man, when I say it was the opposite, I walked out and I just seen so many people look at me and they were like, Lizzo. They were like, oh my God. They were like, come here. I love you. I love you. And it was just people in a crowd and I was hugging them and they was hugging me. And I'm telling you, like people were, they were like, yes, yes.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
They were just like, it felt like me cheering me on being like, you did it. You know, you got over your fear. You got outside. You, You can trust people again. You can love people. People do love you. You're okay. And you know what? There's something you can do about it. And you did it. You stepped outside. And I was like, this is the only thing that's real.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
you can't get this kind of love on the internet. You can't, you absolutely can't. And I thought I could for years, years, because I built my platform on the validation of sharing myself and being myself with the internet and being embraced and being shown love. And I was like, this is love. No, love is in real life. And I felt it from not, I won't even say they're fans of my music, just people.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Oh, it was the most life-saving thing. And I was like, I have to name my album Love and Real Life because I know I'm not the only person. I know I'm not the only person who sits on their phone and creates a version of themselves or is told by the world who they are and starts to believe it, even if it's not really who you are. You're like, oh, maybe I am not good enough. Maybe I'm not pretty.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Maybe I'm not cool. And it's like, no, this... is a lie. This may be a reflection of some things and some real things do happen on here. And I love the internet. I'm a child of the internet. Like I get down with social media.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
But I also know that if your only sense of self and your only form of validation is coming from social media or coming from your phone or coming from a text back or coming from a dating app, It's not going to fill you up like being in the real world and building community with people and getting over your fear of it because it is scary. And so I've held that title.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I was like, I wrote like four love in real life until I finally settled on the party stadium version. I said, why is this one so lit? Like I wrote these deep emotional ones. And then I wrote this one. I was like, well... That's Lizzo. And I think that was when I realized, oh, this is who I am. I go through this really, really tough shit, man.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And it's fine because I have learned to use my alchemy and turn it into gold and turn it into meaningfulness and like acts of rebellious joy that people can use in the world. And I'm cool with it. That's my mission.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
So when I pop out on a red carpet or when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different, it appears like it was overnight. The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Man.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
inadvertently set a lot of boundaries at that time. And it was more like defenses because I was so afraid of people that even the people that I was close to, I just, I set up these boundaries and I, and I disappeared into myself. I'm not even going to sit up here and lie and be like, I handled it perfectly.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I was hurt by people that I loved and I hurt people that I loved at the time. And I'm talking about the depression period. I'm not talking about me as a boss. I'm not talking about work. No, I'm talking about October, 2023 to now.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And sometimes when you fight, it get real messy. I was scrapping. I was fighting for my life. There was times when it was like, you want to die? Okay, we'll just die. Like nobody will care. And I was like, oh, I'm talking to myself like that? When did this happen? I'm like, love yourself. I'm like, stay positive. I'm like, no, you have to live. You have to live for your mommy.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
You have to live for the... And it was like, no, bitch, you want to die? Die. Like, this is the time to do it. Because nope, everyone will hate you and nobody cares. And I think that defensiveness isolated me really bad. But there's something about isolation. that turns into solitude, that turns into introspection, that turns into, I am sitting alone with myself and I can finally see her.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I was covered up by so much that I couldn't see myself. I was blinded by all these people in my space telling me who I am. I was blinded by my career, standing on stage and 20,000 people saying, I love you. You're amazing. I'm like, okay, thank you. I got to push through. I was never alone. I was never alone. Even when I was at home, I'd be like, you want to come over? Let me throw something.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Let me throw a pool party. Let me have people come over and drink wine. Like maybe it was a fear of being alone with myself. Maybe it was a lack of self-awareness. But in that isolation where I think my defensiveness had pushed off and pushed away the people I love the most, I pushed them all away. I got to like sit with them.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
this person and I saw the things that other people saw sometimes that aren't the coolest or the nicest or that I'm the most proud of. I'm like, you are, you're moody. You're uncomfortable. You forgot who you are. You forgot why you're here. And I think that during that time, I embrace that part of myself.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
It's like, okay, you're moody, be in a mood, but what do you need to do to make yourself feel better in that mood? And what can you do to protect yourself in that mood and protect others? Sit by yourself, bitch, read a book, learn how to finally consistently meditate, exercise, get some fresh air, get in the sun. And it was like, I forced myself to do that shit. That
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I didn't want to exercise at first. Hell no. But I got one, got that cardio machine. And I was like, I never regret moving my body. I never regret it. I started, it's an anxiety technique. It's like you focus on your senses. Like, what can I smell? What can I taste? What can I see? What can I feel? And I started doing that. Not intentionally. I'm not a genius when it comes to this shit.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I just started doing it. I was like, what are you eating? What are you putting in your body? You're putting things in your body that's making you sick. You know, what are you doing on a daily basis? You're bed rotting. And that's fine sometimes. But also when you're always doing it, your body doesn't move. You know, what are you looking at? What are you watching on TV?
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I had to throw my phone away. I'm about to throw my phone away. I'm like, oh God, it writes itself. I threw my phone away. did not look at it. I told my team, I said, anything I need to post or anything I want to post, you post it for me. I don't want to look at that shit no more. And that was hard too, because I love the internet, but it's doing a lot of things that are hard to finally be like,
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
this is who I am and I need to become, I need to love her and I need to make her the best version of myself. Because guess what? Even after all this shit, even after looking at this aspect of myself that I was like, wow, that's not my favorite part of myself. You know, after all the things I've been through, all the relationships that have come and gone in my life, I still deserve it. I really do.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And it's all I motherf***ing got. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Well, you're in front row now, baby. I know.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Oh, yeah. We've been chatting it up, honey. I love it.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And not just safer for me, but safer for the public. I don't want to create divisiveness. I really don't. There's enough discourse. There's enough division. And I think that me doing something that I thought was for a good cause or from the goodness of my heart, if it's taken and creates negative discourse where people are going back and forth, I won't say nothing. I won't say nothing at all.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Well, you don't have my mama and my sister because that was a Christmas gift from them. I remember on Christmas Day, they got me this. It was like a huge thing that they dragged in that was wrapped. And I was like, what could y'all have possibly gotten me in this huge? And they were like, we're so excited. And I unwrapped it. And I was like, is this like a water bowl? They're like, no.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Don't worry about me. You don't got to worry about me at all. Don't you worry, honey.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
No, because I feel like there was no opposition. I feel like when I spoke up, the only opposition was the opposition to the cause. I think now when I speak up for something, there's opposition to me. It's like, ah, bad messenger. Good right message, bad messenger. And I'm like, oh, you know what? Valid. Absolutely valid. As a famous person or a celebrity right now, this is what I signed up for.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I'm like, so I'm not complaining. I can't complain. Do it. I'm going to just be quiet because I understand that it's creating more confusion than solution. And I only want... I'm a solutionary. I'm a solutionary. I like to bring solutions. I like to only speak up if I know it's going to help in some way. And if it ain't helping... Zip it, zip it.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I saw the footprint. There's feet, like footprint, big feet. Prince in it. And they're like, you stand in it. And I was like, and then what? And it's like, and then you sound bath. And I was like, this is actually wild. And so I was having like a really emotional day. I was like, I was very close to crash out.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I don't have any new people in my life anymore. And I'm very careful about... And honestly, a lot of relationships that I had are gone. And it's not like bad. It's just like I just... I stopped chasing... Because how do I say this? How do I say this? I see the good in everyone. And I have seen the good in some really kind of like broken people who have done harmful things.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
But I always see the potential. I always see the good. And it's like that inner child in me that's like, oh my gosh, I can help them. But they are good. And I think that when they would do harmful things to me, I had a sense of forgiveness and understanding. And I would be like, I know that's not you. And so I would chase and pursue that relationship. And I'm not talking about romance.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I'm talking about people I worked with. I'm talking about friends who were also people I worked with. I was like, I was hiring my best friends, you know? And I would kind of see past it. And meanwhile, I was allowing... something potentially nefarious or not good for me into my space, right?
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
So I realize, and I think people all over the world, when you put up a boundary that protects yourself and you stop chasing the people who continually hurt you, you'll find that pretty soon they'll be gone. And you'll be like, wait a minute. I was keeping this afloat the whole time. It was me. And so when I isolated, a lot of people just sailed away. And I opened my eyes and was like, who's left?
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I dragged it outside, took my shoes off, put my feet in the earth for a second, stood in it and just rang it. And I was like, I still don't feel better. Dude, I'll feel better. And then I hit it. I kept hitting it and I was like, oh, this is kind of fun. And it, yeah, changed my day. I brought out my other bowls and I sat and I just hummed and played them. And it literally changed my day.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And the people that are left are, you know, my best friend who I've known since like fourth grade. Do you know what I'm saying? And I love her and I cherish her. My boyfriend, you know, and I'm just like, wow. This is cool. I don't need to pursue anything or anyone anymore. I'm full. And I think that comes from that isolation. And I think it comes from appreciating the people that you have.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And from like a business perspective, when you're friends with somebody and you hire them, it's just like it gets the power dynamic. It's up the relationship. It's up the social structure of the relationship. And it's something that, you know, I wanted to do when I was younger. I was like, yeah, it puts money in my friend's pockets. Like, let's go. Let's turn up. Let's see the world. Let's...
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And it was, you know, something I loved. But then I also realized it's not fair to them to be their boss and their friend. And that will help keep things just clean. I just want, and like I said, simple solutions. I don't want no more confusion ever again. I want my friends to be my friends and I want my employees to be my employees.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And so you make everything music and creation and artistry. And you're like, oh, this should be a creative space and this should be lax. And everyone's like, no, man, this is a well-oiled machine. If Lizzo is the brand, then it's a company. You know what I mean? It's like everybody has their role and it's just like know your role and stay in your lane. That's something that I've learned.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I was actually, I was pessimistic about it. I was like, this is not going to work.
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LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I don't know. It's... I'm not out of it, man. I'm still learning what's coming next, but I'm so grateful to God because this... And I'm not just talking about, like, the scandal. I'm talking about the last, like, two years of my life. The last, like... All of this. It has prepared me for, I think, something so incredible that I needed to be ready for. That I needed to be this way for.
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You know what I mean? Because I was holding on to a lot of toxicity. I really was. Because... That's just the kind of, like, and I'm not even talking about toxicity within myself. I mean, like, toxic systems and structures and people. I held on to them because I was just like, I'm a Taurus. You know, I'm very loyal. I'm just like, till the wheels fall off. And it's like, man... Let go and flow.
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It was the first time I tested the, since Christmas, I tested the big one out.
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And I think that I had to learn that. Like, God had tried to show me this so many ways. It was like, knock me over the head. I was like, yeah, but that person was just mean. Knock me over the head. Yeah, but that was just a misunderstanding. Knock me over the head. It was like, yeah, wake up. Wake up, let go. You know, when you can't let go, you hold on to things that weigh you down.
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And I'm not even trying to talk bad about nobody because I feel like people needed to let me go too. Honestly, there are some relationships and dynamics that I know that like I was keeping them back from greatness. Do you know what I mean? Or not even, let's f*** greatness. Keeping them back from just like living. You know what I mean? Living for themselves.
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Yeah, I was shocked.
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And it's not my job to think about that. But I will say, it's not just a, it's not a one-way street. I'm not sitting up here being the victim and being like, I had to do this for me. It's like, no, man, it's mutual. There's somebody out there whose story is like, yeah, I had, if... I had to let go. And now I'm flowing and things are coming to me that are meant for me.
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You know, I'm not just holding on to this situation that's starting to whoop my ass. You know, I'm aware of that.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah. I was so angry. I was like, so like, I was so angry from like October to January. I just have a lot of angry songs. And I was like, get it out. Yeah. Talk your shit. I had some songs that were very like, that are very dark, you know, and I left them on the album because I was like, I just think that people deserve to know. And like, it's songs about loss. Like I lost my dog, Puka, 20 years.
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You know, she was like a grandma to me, you know, and that was really hard. I wrote a song for her and I have like songs about like just friendships that ended that really hurt me. And I was like, leave it. You know, I had this one song I wrote and like I hadn't slept in like 48 hours. And it was like during one of the worst like mental breakdowns I've ever had in my life.
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Like I had the studio scheduled the next day and I hadn't slept and I was like tear stained face and like musty clothes. I was like, I'm going to go to the studio.
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And I went and I wrote this incredible song and I'm like, leave it. Leave it. You know, you owe yourself that. You don't always have to write perfect, polished pop hits. You can have songs about your real experience that you didn't go in and edit on this album. But then I wrote Love and Real Life in like February. And I was like, huh. I was like, this feels good. This feels familiar.
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And I started to realize my purpose. My purpose, like I said, is to turn this pain into champagne and help other people through it. I can't just sit and... be sad for 12, 15 songs. I got to give people something to step to, something to march to, something to perk themselves back up. I didn't do it because I forced myself to. I did it because that was just the place I was at now.
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I had written so many sad songs, so many mad songs, so many wrong songs that I could finally focus on what's right and what feeds my soul.
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A lot of them I'm like, like, you'll never hear this one. Never hear The Light of Day.
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And that's one thing I will tell any artist. It's like, make the song. It's not like once you record it, it's going to go on the radio tomorrow. It's not going to be on DSPs at midnight. Write the song, say the lyrics, say the weird thing. People desperately want to hear the weird thing. And then write another song. And if you, you know what I'm saying?
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Like that's part of the, how do I describe this? I always say like, there's some sort of stream of creation going always. And ideas like are coming out like fish. It's so wild. And so you're always kind of like, when you sit down and cast your net,
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to create, whether it's painting, whether it's writing, whether it's music, whatever, dance, you cast that line and whatever that fish is, you catch that fish, you pull it out, And that's it. You got to pull the fish out. You can't be like, well, I caught the fish, but I can't say that. Or I caught the fish, but I don't like this genre of music. I can't make a classical twerk song. Yes, you can.
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Make the classical twerk song, pull the fish out, and go fishing again. Cast your line again. You know what I'm saying? What did they say? It's full of fish. Plenty of fish in the sea.
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I'm such a better lover now. I worked really hard and I can't remember, it was like 2017. I was really deep in it and I had like candles and I was reading books and I was trying to understand what it means to be an unconditional lover because love with conditions hurt really bad. really bad. And I was like, please, I want to learn how to be an unconditional lover.
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And once I had all the crystals and all the candles and all the prayer and all the reading, and I was like, I get it. I get unconditional love. I realized that actually, As a human being, I'm incapable of unconditional love. We are. I think on a spirit level, vibrationally, we are unconditional love.
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And I think that is why it's hard to try to be an unconditional lover because it's not something that you can actively do. You just are. But when you tap back into your flesh, that's when the conditions come right back in. Mm-hmm. And I found that when I choose to love and flow, that is the most unconditional part.
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When I love on a material level, that's when the conditions start to come in and it gets painful and it gets petty and it gets weird. But every time I forget, because we're going to forget, we are human beings. We step back into the flesh every morning when we wake up. I have to go back to the flow. And I remind myself, I'm like, well, how would you feel if they did that to you?
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You know, how would you what would you think? And I go, oh, and I empathize and I understand. And it's so much easier for me now to accept because I think love is acceptance. You know what I mean? Like I like my one of my favorite phrases to tell myself and others is like, I love and accept you for who you are. I love and accept you for who you are.
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And sometimes when people piss me off, I go, I love and accept them for who they are. I have to remind myself that I do on a very soul level, on a vibrational level. I love them and accept them for who they are. Once I get into the material of it, ah, you f***ed up my day or why would you say that to me or why would you do this to me?
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It starts to get real conditional and painful and pain body and hateful and drama and mess. I don't want no drama and I don't want no mess. I really don't anymore. And honestly, I was addicted to it for a long time. Oh, my God. I love reality TV. I loved hearing gossip about other. I would be like, oh, my God. So what's the tea? What happened? What happened? Oh, my God. Like, I was very spunky.
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You know what I mean? And I realized, oh, that's like, you know, I see something online. I'm like, I go down the rabbit hole. I'm like, but what happened? I want to know the drama. And it's like, girl. That is lowering your vibration. And like, I hate to even say lowering vibration because people don't think it's woo woo. It's like I'm literally lowering my waking state by doing that.
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You're lowering yourself and then you start to attract drama. Oh, my God. When you are what you eat, when you eat drama, you attract mother drama.
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I was so addicted to it. And I think like now I'm a better lover. And what I understand about love is love is like, there's no drama. It's like calm water. It's like peaceful water because love is a flow state.
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It's so funny because I host these, I call them ass rams once a year. So it's like these little retreats that I do for all of the black women in my life that I love and I care about. And it's like an emotional and spiritual reset. And we do sound baths in the morning and we do sound baths at night. And this one time I was laying there and I like allowed myself to really just like go.
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You're at your best. You love it your best when you're just flowing. Don't try to understand it. Don't try to make it make sense. And don't try to like find problems with it. Just like love them. Yeah. You know, and be loved.
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And it was so trippy. We all saw the same thing. I was like, because she was asking everyone. They were like, yeah, I saw like pink and purple. And I was like, yeah, I saw pink and purple. And it was like, and I saw a galaxy. And it was like, I saw a galaxy. So we all kind of like, it's real. I have too much proof that there's something else going on out here.
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We are as kind to others as we are to ourselves. I'm learning that. I'm learning the people who say the meanest things to me and about me are going through it. They struggling too. How are you going to be nice to me and say something nice about me when you talk down about yourself? And I don't even mean like people who have low self-esteem. I'm talking like, oh, stupid. Why did I do that?
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I'm so stupid. Or like, oh, I look bad. Like, I don't like how I look. Like, oh, I hate myself. Like, it's little things like that, that you say over and over and over and over and your body's like, bet. You know? And that's why I'm so, man, I'm telling you, self-love can save, the world because it starts with you. Self-love could make this world a better loving place.
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You notice the people who are kind to themselves and love themselves, you're like, ooh, I like being around. You're so kind. You're so nice. Why are you so nice to me? It's like, because I'm nice to me. You know what I mean?
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But when I'm hard on myself and when I'm striving for perfection and when I'm beating myself up and when I'm doing the most- I can't control how I treat other people or how I look at other people or what I think about other people. When I'm in the trenches, the trenches are surrounding me. Now that I'm kinder to myself, and that doesn't even mean like, oh, I put on lotion every day and self-care.
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I mean like, man, like the way I look at the world, the way I view the world, the way I view myself through the lens of the world is kinder. You know what I'm saying? And I think if everyone was a little kinder to themselves, I think we'd have less and less of the negativity in the world.
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And it's all kind of guided by vibration. It's all led by vibration.
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Yes. Yes. I would say we could talk about my personal life because on a personal level, I do feel like there's just people who like our relationship just grew apart because we just don't even relate on the same things anymore. You know, I know a lot of people be like, oh, I grew out of that. It's like it's not really you grew out of it. You just grew apart from it. And that's fine.
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But I would say on like my public relationship, yes. I'm very careful about what's happening with me right now. I have been on an intentional weight release journey. And I put it on the internet. I posted about it maybe a year and a half ago. And I was very clear that this time it's intentional. I've always been very like... work athletic online.
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I work out, you know, I'm always like, you know, eating and showing how I eat and like always trying to like eat healthy. And I remember once I started becoming famous, like 2018, 2019, I was, and I was like a big girl. And I was like, it's going to be on me to show the world that big girls can also be healthy. Big girls can also have stamina. Big girls can also be loved.
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Big girls can also be sexy, et cetera, et cetera. All the things that I, you know, stood for. And I told people that I was going on an intentional weight release journey because I wanted to be transparent in that way. Because I do feel like I have a relationship with the public where it's like, I am their friend and it is relatable. You know what I mean? It is relatable to struggle with your body.
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So I put it out there. And I think over the last year and a half, as I've been doing it, my body has been changing very slowly. But I don't think people were paying attention. I would show different things like, oh, I showed my workouts or I'd show like what I eat in a day. Or I would say, I started off the year by being like, hey, new year, new me trends don't have to be toxic.
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Please be careful when you're posting about your January fitness goals because it can be very fat phobic. Like I was still very... like anti-fat phobia on this entire journey. But I think that, you know, we got to remember everybody not seeing your shit all the time. Everybody not seeing every video you post. Everybody's not privy to what you're going through. They're not with you every day.
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So when I pop out on a red carpet or when a video suddenly goes viral and my body's different, it appears like it was overnight. It appears sudden. And I think that was shocking to a lot of people because now the headline is Lizzo Skinny. which is a far cry from the truth because I'm not. I'm not.
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And even in my original video, I was like, when I reach my weight release goal, I'm not going to be considered thin by any means, by any metric, by any BMI. I will still get
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trolled and talked about and the fat jokes will still be there but I'll be happy and I said that because I meant it and here I am and I was like how did y'all how are y'all how where's the the disconnect but I think the disconnect is communication yeah yeah that's such a good point I've been so transparent. So if anyone wanted to look at my paper trail, it's there.
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But I also know that they're not going to. And my responsibility as someone who has this relationship with the public and they have it with me is to continue. I'm not going to stop and get defensive and be like, God, I did for a second. I was like, I'm not skinny. Why are y'all saying that?
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And that kind of baffled me because it's just like, if y'all knew how much I weighed, if y'all knew what my body really looked like, and I was like, oh, okay. just show them what your body looks like. Just be real about it. Just be real about the body dysmorphia that you're experiencing, you know, now that you have released some weight that's kind of new to you.
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Like, you know, that is also like, it's strangely inverse. Like show them, just show them your journey more. Just continue to do it. Instead of being angry and defensive about it, be real about it because that's what your friend loves about you. And that's what you love about your friend, that you can be real. You know, I'm still in it because this is all very new.
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Like, I think it's now just starting to be like a point of conversation and discourse. And I think my responsibility with that is to make sure that it's still me.
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Because the weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And I think people can see that. And I don't want to describe anything as loss. I'm not experiencing any loss. I've actually gained so much. I've gained like... a sense of self. I gain like a lifestyle that I actually really love. And I'm like, I can maintain this.
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The way I like to describe it, because I'm very like science and woo-woo. Yes. Me too. I'm a tourist. So, you know, I need like grounding of it. We're constantly vibrating. I think when people hear vibration, they think like, okay, girl, like, oh, we're on a vibe. I'm like, no, you know, your heart is beating constantly.
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You know, I've gained new perspectives on like nutrition and the science behind cardio or weightlifting. Like it's exciting to me. That's that Virgo moon. I'm like, oh, this is interesting. I love science. But yeah, I just think that like, People aren't going to understand this right now, but it's the most body positive way to experience what I'm going through.
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I don't want to use any negative terms. Weight loss is like, girl, I lost weight. And it's so funny because my man, he's so funny. Like he was the one who kind of like brought it to my attention at first. I was like, because at first I was like, I was like, oh my gosh, I lost five pounds. He was like, where did it go? I was like, what? And I was mad at him. I was like, why would he say that?
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But he's like, where did it go? You know, I was like, oh, interesting. You know, it's like, I don't think I want to lose anything. I think I want to win. I think I want to gain. And I think that like
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I want to be very intentional with the words that come out of my mouth because there's young people who are watching me and they're experiencing, you know, what I'm putting into the world and they're applying it to their own experience and their own life just like I did when I was a kid. You know, I saw how the media treated people who gained and lost
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lost weight and how that affected my brain chemistry and how it made me, I'm still not perfect. Like, you know, I'll still mess up when I'm talking about things or I'll still have some toxic, you know, diet culture things that come in my brain. I just swatted away like a fly. I'm like, no, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. You know what I mean? Like, this is your body.
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You only get one of these. Enjoy her and let her enjoy you. So I just want to be very careful about, With my words and intentional.
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And it's not for me. Because if this was all for me, you know, I take this being a public figure very by heart. But if we was sitting alone and we was drinking tequila, I'd be like, well... But it's like, no, like... Be careful with your words because it could affect somebody in ways you don't even know. Even me releasing the weight has affected people. And I take that seriously.
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I take that responsibility. And so because of that, I want to transmute it into something that makes those people feel comfortable, you know, and feel like, okay, less, less afraid of it. You know what I mean? And understand it more.
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Your blood is coursing through your veins and you're like made mostly of water. So when your heart is beating, it's sending a vibration through your entire body. Like if you sit still enough, you can feel like, the vibration. So it's like everything is constantly vibrating and you can vibrate high and you can vibrate low and you actually have the power to control that.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Thank you.
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And once I learned that, I was like, oh, it's like a cheat code to life, to existing. So well said.
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I can play anything. I found that if I lick my finger and I have a crystal glass, I can make a sound. I think that's just one of my gifts is that when I was a kid, I played recorder, and then I played flute, and then I played piccolo, and then I can play clarinet, and I can play piano, and now I play guitar. So I think with sound bowls, I think I just am an instrumentalist and it's an instrument.
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Give me an instrument and I'm going to make a beautiful sound.
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Wait, so you can't do the bowls?
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Oh, I can really make them sing to where your ears start to, it gets like really loud in your ears and you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Is somebody in there with like a bowl in my head? That's how it starts to feel sometimes.
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Oh my God. Oh my God. We're going to open up Astorams to everybody very soon.
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Yes. Chani Nicholas is my like astrologer. And so like every eclipse season, I'm texting her. I'm like, hey. Happy eclipse season, what's happening? But when I, so I've had knowledge of my sign ever since I was a little kid. Like, so I was super into crystals and like, oh, I'm a Taurus. And like, my dad's a Libra, my mom's a Virgo and like compatibility.
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But then as I got older, when I met Chani Nicholas, she taught me about the chart and how like you're more than just your sun sign and how your big three, but it's like you're more than your big three too. You've got these like asteroids that go through and you've got these like, you've got the rock, you've got everything. Your Venus matters, your Mercury matters.
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That really reframed how I think of myself because it kind of opened me up to being like, oh, I'm the universe. Like I contain multitudes. Like if I see a tourist trait that doesn't resonate with me, is there a Gemini trait that resonates with me? Is there a Virgo trait that resonates with me? And I think the most impactful thing I learned from her lately is that we have like house years.
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And so 2023, I was in a 12th house year. And that's the year of hidden enemies. That's the year of shadow work. And once she told me that, it like really unlocked for me because I was like, oh. That makes sense. And then she was like, you're going into a first house year. So I've been in a first house year since April 2024. And now my birthday is coming up in April 2025.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And I have taken advantage of this first house year because I'm a Leo rising and my first house is all about self and how I present. So I was just like, I'm going to go in like everything is routined. Everything is like routine. practice. I'm just like, I'm so deep into my practice and like loving on myself and rediscovering and redefining who I am.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And now when I move into my second house here, I'm going to take advantage of that too.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
So it's going to be Virgo, which is my moon. And actually it's these practices that I've been doing on an external level, how I like make them internal, you know, how I reframe my membrane and rework the nuts and bolts in my brain and like make it like my life.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Like right now it's a routine, but I'm going to make it a lifestyle and I'm going to get really cerebral with my Virgo moon and I'm going to get really meticulous and I'm going to get really in the paint, like hard working because that's what that Virgo is. That Virgo allows me to like work my ass off. And that's where I really shine. And that's where I'm really the most happy.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
It's where I'm working, honestly.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
We're related a little bit.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Well, first of all, I used to be like, oh, it's what I am and that's why. But it's not like, oh, I am a tourist. It's I have tourists, which I think gives it a little bit more purposefulness and it makes it a tool. So I'm like, how can I use my Leo rising right now? Big hair, big personality, big identity, big bold expression, color, fire. How could I use this fire right now?
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Because that's what I have right now. And then when I'm in Virgo, how do I use this earth? How do I use this knowledge? How do I use this quest for knowledge, this hardworkingness, this steadfastness? How do I use that? How do I use the private parts of myself and protect the private parts of myself? I think that is how astrology has been very helpful to me because it's not just like what I am.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
I don't just like settle for it. I'm not like, oh, well, that's why because they a Scorpio. That's why. No, it's like they have Scorpio and that's what they're choosing to do with it. I have Taurus and what I'm choosing to do with it is be ruled by Venus. I want to be all things beauty and love. You know what I mean? With a little bit of sprinkle of hard work.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
And you know, gluttony. Little gluttony.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
Man, once I learned what a 12th house year is, it did kind of make sense. You know, because I'll fight against closing up and isolating. I'll fight against it because it was like a toxic trait that I had when I was younger. Like, I would get—and mind you, I already told you, I've been crying a lot lately. So if I cry, it's not because I'm sad. I just am real sensitive lately and googly-eyed.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
But when I was younger— Instead of expressing myself, I would lock up and get really quiet and shut down and just like hold it all in. And I went to a point where I didn't speak for like a whole summer. And when I was younger, I didn't talk to anyone. I didn't talk out loud. The only time I used my voice was at night and I would sing to myself and that was it.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
So I thought that that was a really toxic trait and I have been working on expressing myself. So when you see me online, that's a form of expression for me that I've worked to get to. When I talk to the people who I work with, that's a form of expression that I worked really hard to get. When I express myself to my friends and my family and my loved ones, I've worked hard for this.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
So to be quiet was like, oh my gosh, I'm reverting back to a version of myself that I worked away from. But I think once I learned like, hey girl, you don't always need to be quiet. You don't always need to talk. Sometimes you need to sit back and just be quiet and observe what's in front of you now and be present. Stop being in the future. Stop lamenting in the past.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
LIZZO EXCLUSIVE: “Releasing The Weight Has Affected People” The Real Transformation Story She’s Never Shared Before
What's in front of you right now? And like when I said I was on a gap year, I was in the middle of it. And I think people were like, oh, she's about to take a whole year off. I'm like, no, I was just in the middle of it. I just hadn't like expressed myself really. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years, like how I want to.
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Beyonce, you changed my life. You sang that gospel medley and the way you made me feel. I was like, I want to make people feel this way with my music. So thank you so much.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Like, hey, you good here? Yeah, but that's what they say about the West Coast is like they pretend to be nice, but they're actually mean. And East Coast is they pretend to be mean, but they're actually nice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
been 84 years um i've been playing shows like when you say shows you mean like just like getting on stage and rocking out yeah i've been playing shows since i was like 19 okay i've been playing shows for like half of my life just part of you ever miss um like like okay because you weren't expecting everything to blow up right no but you had like a pretty like loyal fan base and you had like into like you were like what cap size rooms were you playing before everything blew up
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was doing pretty good. Yeah. I was in like large theaters so I could do like 5k. I grossed like a million dollars independent.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That was the moment. I remember I put out Truth Hurts in 2017. And I was like, this is the best song I've ever done to date. Because About Damn Time is the best song I've ever done since then, bitch. But I did Truth Hurts and I was like, this is the best video, best song. I was like, hell yeah. And I put it out and it didn't really get any pickup or any attention or anything like that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I was like, huh, interesting. And I was like, you know what? That's it. And it was kind of dark for me because I was like, I... don't wanna even try anymore for that. I was like, I just wanna be happy with what I have. It was a darkness that I don't wanna talk about, but I'm just gonna skip to the positive.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Because at this point, because I'm so successful, it's gonna sound like I'm complaining, so I won't even say that. But I will say, I was like, you can tour on your own, you can take care of your family financially, And you make really good music and you have a great fan base. I am now going to just focus on being a career artist that can tour. Like, that's it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You know, I don't need to be signed to no big majors and be a pop star. I don't need that shit. I'm happy with what I have. And once I got happy with it... All of a sudden they want to blow a bitch up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Right. You got to be, like, content. Right. with where you are and not chase. So you can attract. Cause I feel like not just with career, like relationships too. I find that like I attract the best people, romantic or platonic when I'm on my path and I'm like happy. Right. And I'm like taking care of myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I attract really healthy, happy, good partners and partnerships and friendships in my life. When I'm going through the trenches and I'm struggling and searching and You know, desperate, because I've been desperate a few times. Oh, I am desperate. I'm so desperate.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Completely changed. Oh, wow. First it was like radio and a lot of like traditional media. Tradmede is what I like to call it. And you're like sitting in a hotel room and it's like you sitting on the couch and then like they just send a new person in every 10 minutes and they ask the same questions. No shade.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I attract, you know, people who are negative and suffer that negative energy. Interesting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Baby, it's not even possible anymore to have a, I, like, let me tell you something about me. I am the friendliest bitch. I loved talking to strangers. It was so fun for me. Ever since I was a little kid, my mom said we were at like Disneyland or something and she couldn't find me for like five minutes. It was like, oh, fuck, we lost Melissa. And then she found me because we were all at the pool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And she said she found me by the hot tub talking to a bunch of adults just being like, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, like I really just love to like write and I love poetry. And I was like a little I was like single digit. And my mom was like, oh, shit. And she was like, I'm so sorry. You know, the kid comes like, I'm so sorry. And they're like, no, she was fine. I love talking to strangers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And then all of a sudden, once you become famous, you can't really do that anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? Mostly because like nobody's really a stranger.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
people know who you are for the most part. And so it just becomes kind of like a transaction. Like I noticed the first time I really noticed that somebody like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
asked me for a photo on when i was on a plane and i was like i was like yeah after the flight you know yeah i looked crusty dusty musty busty but this was like early days so i was like she ain't gonna follow up on that shit right lo and behold the flight ended and i was like all right got off the plane i felt her chasing me i said she chasing me that's crazy so i was like let me run let me
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
i'm saying so i'm i'm running you know for the plot right yeah i ended up in like one of those little like magazine corner stores inside the airport and she cornered me and i was like no fucking way i was trying to say i was like how far is she gonna take it she said can i have my picture now no yeah so i was like oh your picture I'm pretty sure it's our picture.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And that's the part. But you don't know when that moment happens. You're, you know. you're not, it's non-transactional and you're a stranger to everybody. And then like seemingly overnight becomes very transactional and you're everybody's friend. And it's just like, know your role, bitch. And now I know my role. You know what I mean? And I understand it now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But when you don't understand it, it can be a little scary, a little jarring at first.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Wow, this is getting really. Yeah. Woo, don't just chime in now. Rewind and get a little bit of context.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That actually happened to me. And it was kind of heartbreaking to me because it was like, 2020 time, if I could describe what being in full press and radio press promo and touring is like, or I guess was like pre COVID pre lockdown. It was, it was not, I'm, I pride myself on being a hard worker. This is... There's nothing like waking up at 6 a.m., being in glam.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Mind you, you landed the night before. Right, right. You just landed in a new city, maybe 10 p.m. You go to bed. You wake up at 5. Maybe if you go to bed by 1 or 2, you lucky, because it take me a lot to get to sleep. You're in glam... Which is great. I love my life, but I'm just I'm just giving people some insight because they don't know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Then you go to the first you do radio all through the morning because radios in the morning and that's back to back to back to back interviews. Then you get to the hotel and you sit down and you do back to back to back to back to back press interviews. Then after that. You do your soundcheck and the soundcheck is normally when you're first starting off for radio.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So there's a lot of radio winners who come in or there's a lot of like meet and greet fans who come in. So you do like a soundcheck party. You're singing. Mind you, during those radio performances earlier, you're also performing live on air because you're promoting your music. So you're performing all morning. You're doing interviews all morning. You do a soundcheck party.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, I'm sitting on a bed in a hotel room. I always do. I had about like, it would be, I can give you the time. I'd wake up at 6 a.m.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
and perform for fans, then you maybe get like a little second, but in that little second, they put down a thick packet of like, hi, this is Lizzo, and you're listening to Radio 52341, bitch. Okay, go Orlando. And you're doing that, and you're getting through that, or you're doing, hey, what's up, Spotify? It's your girl, Lizzo.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You're doing that when you're supposed to be like eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, but you don't. Then you back and glam for the show. Then you get on stage, you perform the show. Then after the show, you're on the bus or the plane to the next city to do it all over again. So that was my life for about two years. And I was kind of raggedy. I'm not going to hold you. I was raggedy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I was pushing it because it's like I wanted to have a social life. I wanted to have friends. I wanted to... And I was drinking. I was partying. I was turning up. So some of these meet and greets, I was kind of literally like... Right, right. You know, and it's like, man... I wish that I could have been more in my body, but I was a little anxious.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was a little exhausted and there were people online and they were just like, I had a meet and greet with Lizzo and she was just like, like not there. And like, it was weird. And she wasn't even like, she didn't even look at me. And I was like, damn, I felt so bad. Cause I'm like, I know I probably met this person yesterday.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
In that window of time where I was just like probably exhausted or probably like so highly caffeinated or you know what I mean? Or just like zoned out to my happy place. And it's like I can't explain that to them. Right. You know, and I feel really bad about it. But that was my first time realizing, oh, wow, like, you know, there can be misconceptions and you're not in control of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'd start around like after glam, 10 or something. I'd be done at like midnight talking to people. So I don't know how many people that is, but they would, they'd fill me up, honey. I was chock full of people. That's crazy. This is so much cooler. I mean, like once again, no more shade, but. It's just cool because I get to sit in people's environments. I get to talk to real people.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Like you mean something to somebody. You mean something to somebody. When they look at your videos and they're like, oh, my gosh, he's so funny. I like him. He's so likable. And then you do something that's not so funny and not so likable. It hurts their feelings because you mean something to them, you know, and that's an important role to play.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Because that's how you built it. You built it by connecting. Oh my God, I used to love reading comments. And they would be like, oh my gosh, do this or eat this next. And I'll be like, oh, okay, I'll try that. That sounds good. But now it's like, no, I can't. And it kind of does make me feel a little disconnected from like, because I used to, man, I'm such a TikTok girl.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was on TikTok since 2019, like doing the renegade, OG, like triple OG. And I think now it's like, But I think the app has changed as well. I think that platform has completely changed. I think comment section is like a stand-up show now. And I'll be getting my life. Other people's comments, now that shit I read. I get other people's comments crying laughing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, right now my favorite shit is like if there's a video of any cat, a cat doing anything, the top comment is always, his greed sickens me. Have you seen that? No. His greed sickens me. Don't be a cat like eating corn on the cob. His greed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Deuteronomy chapter four. I'm like, bitch, y'all are on one. Like who the fuck is coming up with this shit? Like nobody's beating the TikTok comment section right now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And then sometimes when it's not there, the top comment will be like, am I a fucked up person?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yo! So anyway, I think just be yourself, man. That was the lesson that I learned. You can't really control it. People are going to say what they want to say about you. People are going to believe things about you that aren't true. People are going to believe things about you that you're like, where the fuck that come from?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And then there's people who are going to believe you and believe who you are. And the only way they're going to do that is if you continue to show the world who you are. There is a brand that sort of begins to You know, you're a person, but then all of a sudden, when you don't belong to yourself anymore and you belong to the public, that becomes a brand. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I think that when you drink Coca-Cola, you know what to expect. I'm like, I know this brand. It's going to be fizzy. It's going to be sweet. And it's going to burn a little bit. And it might kill me one day. But one day if you drink it and it's all of a sudden thick, if Coca-Cola like kind of hard to get out, what the fuck is this? This isn't the Coca-Cola I know and love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That's what my therapist, when I first noticed I was getting like famous, I was like in this movie called Hustlers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And it's a different vibe every podcast, which is amazing. I love that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was in that movie and I was like really excited. I was like, I'm going to go watch it. And I went to the movies. I didn't even tell nobody I was going to go watch it. I just went to the movies to go watch it. You know, I pay for everybody's seat. We like had a whole theater to ourselves because I was on tour and I can't remember which city I was in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I left the theater and it was like people outside waiting for me, fans. And I was like, wait a minute. How y'all know I was going to be here? Like what the fuck is going on? And that was really cool. But I think after that, I started noticing more things. It was like when I wanted to go out, like me and my friends, we would go out to lunch on tour. We would just go out and eat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And that became like a burden. And I was like, damn, like I have to get a car.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
to get security i have to get all these things i'm holding y'all back just go without me right and i was just like sitting in my hotel room by myself and i was like what the fuck is going i don't want this to be my i want to enjoy this life so i talked to my therapist and she said you know what you're experiencing is you're mourning a piece of yourself that's now gone right and just identify what that is and mourn it because it's gone and that is a little bit of your autonomy you know there is a piece of yourself that's like this isn't mine anymore right you have to give it away and that's
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
fine that's fine if you make it okay if it's not fine then take then take it back you know but that's a part of being a public figure now right it's always been but especially with social media right it's like seriously elevated yeah do you think any of those feelings and any of the things you've learned um in the past three years uh have bled into your new album Oh, wow. Absolutely.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Love you. Yeah, they paid me to say that. No, I mean, I love you. This is a great vibe already. I love you too.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I think one thing about me that I'm so grateful for is that music is my therapist, has always been my boyfriend, my doctor. And I've always, there is not one album that wasn't directly impacted by my personal life. I feel like this album, though, Love In Real Life, is going to hit even more because people didn't know what my personal life was like when I was writing Cause I Love You.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
A hundred percent. They didn't know what the fuck I was going to do. I just popped up. I was a new girl. Right. New pop girl on the scene. Okay, cool. That's a cute little bop. With Special, we were in lockdown, and there was no personal life. You were just in your space, you were in your bubble, and I was trying to write music that would help people get out of this time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was like, this album's going to come out, I'm praying that it's going to come out when we're out of lockdown. What does that feel like for people? What does that look like for people? I got to remind people that they're special. I got to say it's about damn time to turn up the music and like step back out. You know, everybody's gay. I wrote it and I was like, everybody's going to be partying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Everyone's going to be so excited again. Pride is going to be lit because we're just back outside. So that was almost like a fantasy. And this album is like, like a diary of like October, 2023 to like November, 2024 of just like almost chronologically of like what you go through. And it's like, you have to kind of, ah, you know, it's so wild.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You were like, there's a part of you that you have to kind of just like say goodbye to, or like, it's not whatever. Like we were talking about that. You said something really pointy. I can't remember what it was. Rewind the tape. But, um,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I think I just, even though I first started talking to my therapist in 2019 about mourning a part of myself, I don't think I had the actual funeral for that part of myself until now. Wow. I think that I have been learning that lesson since then. And, and it been knocking me over the head and I've been ignoring it and knocking me over the head.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And then this time it was like, you do not belong to you anymore. Lizzo is an idea, a brand, an entity in the world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
has projected it onto you got it that projection can be beautiful that projection can look very similar to you that projection can also be very ugly and that projection can be not you at all but it's what they perceive and there's nothing you can do about it so now what and I think that like once I really had that lesson hit and was like whoa I'm really fucking famous, bitch.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
This is like, this is not just you got a cute song and people know who you are. This is like.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah. And for better or for worse. And I think once I mourned that, and it was so ugly. Oh, my God. Really? It was ugly. It was dark. It was very depressing. Like, me mourning a part of myself for, like, the idea that I, you know, can control my narrative or, like, own my narrative. Because I can control it. I just don't own it anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It was, like, cutesy. I was like, oh, yeah, but that... It's fine, though. I'm dealing with it. No, the real deal, once you really go through it, you're like, oh, my God, I'm so depressed. Like, is my life over? Is my life over? I kept thinking that. I was like, damn, my life is over.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It was really dark. But I think a part of my life was over. You know, the part of me that I was like, this is really me. You know, you get to be like really you in the world. And then now it's like, no, I don't. Right. You know, I am... whatever they want me to be. Like when Eminem was like, I am whatever you say I am. If I wasn't, then why would you say I am?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? But now I get it. Shout out to Eminem. Because I totally get that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I think that this album, like, even Still Bad is just, like, you know, remember Grease when Sandy pulls up to the fair and she's like, what's up, stud? Yeah, of course, yeah. Like, stomps out a cigarette. Bitch, you don't smoke. Right, yeah. Like, Still Bad is very, like, okay, you want me to be the bad guy? I'm the bad guy. Awkward. Right. You know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But, like, you go through these stages of, like, grieving, right? you know and and it's like a relationship with the world and i always say still bad is like my breakup song to the world and now it's like but the on the album you see us across yeah they text me you up the world is like you up and i'm like Bitch, I might be. Right, right. You know, wait and see.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Hmm. When I was writing Still Bad, what was I going through? I think it was like February 2024. What year is this? It's 25.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Straight up. Yeah. It's not a getting older thing. Time is moving fast for everybody.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yes. Do you think it's social media? Do you think we're being microwaved by social media?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yes. Where am I? Yeah. whoa, we got to do something about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I know. I'm like, anyways, I just saw a TikTok of a guy saying that somebody was talking too much and he did this to them in real life and he was like, oh shit. I tried to scroll away. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
he's not trying to scroll away on a bitch in real life he was like I have to touch grass immediately oh I say I like need to lay in grass and like eat it and feel it like I need to like be the grass listen don't let that ever turn don't let that just become like a buzzword or turn into an insult because grass is that bitch grass
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
no grass is really hard like if you have you ever been stressed out and like ready to crash the fuck out and then you step outside barefoot in some grass on a sunny day oh yeah and it like tickles your feet And you're just like, it's like the earth is like a sound bowl. It's like a vibration. It's like a massage for your spirit. Don't sleep on touching grass.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
He was like, I said, bitch. fucking funny to me. We're doomed.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was going to say I wish it was more effective. You know what I mean? Because as easy as it is to cancel someone, it's easy for them to be uncanceled. It doesn't really mean anything anymore. You know what I mean?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah. And that also just gives that person more attention.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Now people are intentionally trying to, what is it called? It's called rage baiting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Rage baiting. I see people like intentionally trying to get canceled to like start careers. And I'm like, oh my God, what if, what has happened? What has we doth? But I feel like, you know, for me, I've been, I've been canceled a lot, you know? Well, I mean, you can't, I shouldn't say I've been canceled cause I'm still going, but, um, I've gotten backlash a lot.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And yeah, that the sync changed my fucking life. Yeah, I didn't even know that was because mind you, I'm like the top synced person at my label. So I've been getting synced since the beginning. Like female rap is very syncable, especially back when I started like 2002. 17, 18. It was very simple.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And from literally every single time I've received backlash, I use it as a growing and learning lesson.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
like from the first time i the first time i ever got backlash was i synced my song good as hell to weight watchers after oprah bought it so it was like oprah wants to use your song i lost my mind i was like it was like it was 2016 it was coachella um it was back in the day and i was like oh my god oprah knows who i am i was like yes yes and they had rebranded to ww
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Not Weight Watchers, all of this stuff. And I remember posting the commercial because I was so proud. And everybody was like, you're fucking joking, right? Like, this is promoting eating disorders. I got an eating disorder using weight. Not me personally, but the comments were like, I got an eating disorder doing Weight Watchers. And I was like, oh my God, it broke my heart. Really?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It truly broke my heart. I first tried to explain myself. I was like, guys, like... I'm a young black girl. Oprah was all we had growing up, and she wants to use my song like that. It's not even about the money. I was like, that's just really fucking cool and a milestone to me. But it's like, they don't care about that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And also, you should know now that you have a... Me, Lizzo, should know now I have a platform that affects people. And even if my intention was good... It's still going to, who knows, you know, affect somebody in a negative way down the road. I could post a commercial and they're like, oh, you know, some young person's like Weight Watchers. They go on there. I don't have control over that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So I think that like I learned like, hey. You know, be careful about the things that you say yes to and think about how it can affect people from every perspective, not just your perspective.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Every single time I've gotten backlash. And even if it's for this, I've gotten backlash for wearing a mask during the pandemic. I've gotten backlash for not wearing a mask during the pandemic because I was out and I was in a field by myself in the middle of nowhere and I didn't have a mask on. They were like, excuse me. But mind you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Two months prior to that, in March, I posted myself wearing a mask because I had, I think I had like a sinus infection or something. I was sick. I didn't roll my eyes at either of them. I learned from both of them. So I think some people get backlash and they love it because it makes them, it starts their career.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It's a horrible feeling. I try to avoid it, but I'm such a lightning rod for that. I don't know. You know, going to the Lakers game and twerking with the Lakers girls. Backlash. For what? Because my booty was out. I know. I had on tights. Who cares, though? But it looked like my butt.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, my God. It was a scandaloso. Really? You know, but I learned from that, too. I learned from everything.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So I was syncing all the time and I'll get emails and it's like, like literally every day and they'll be like, hey, they want to use you in this commercial. They want to use you in this TV show. And I just go, approved, approved. And I like, I approved it and it wasn't even like, it didn't register that it was like going to be this big moment. It was just like another sync to me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
toxic everything's become toxic yes and i think that i was definitely uh i fell for that one i think that like it was easy for people to kind of kick me and and kick me while i'm down as well for years and i wouldn't but i fell for it i'd be like wait a minute you know i'd be like okay well i fixed the problem and i fixed the problem you know every single time but i think also you know you get to a point and now i've officially gotten to the point because you know i've had so much like
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
ups and downs and backlashes and scandals that now I'm at the point where it's like I need to differentiate you know and not allow some of this stuff to get to me like I'll post something or like When I released Still Bad, one person said, this brand of poptimism just doesn't do it for me anymore. And I spiraled. And I was like, what do you mean? They were like, post-COVID, I just can't do it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I was like, I've dropped about damn time post-COVID. Don't you understand? And it's just like... Girl, just let people have opinions on the internet. That don't got nothing to do with you. That don't got nothing to do with the joy of your life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So I feel like not being triggered by everything, you know, and knowing the difference between like somebody, now everyone states their opinion on the internet. Like that's just what it is. Knowing the difference between that And the difference between like, hey, I have to take this narrative back. Right. Like I have to own my own narrative again, I think is a big one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And it's choosing your battles really truly. Yeah. And there's a lot of battles out there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
because it is so personal you know and now everyone know everyone will be like well this song everyone will know you know this song is about this and this song is about that um yeah you know i'm gonna be i don't want to ever like air out my like what what gets to me but i think that like you can like i got a lot of like fat jokes and you know a lot of people a lot of fat backlash you know like for being a bigger girl it was just like damn what the fuck but i can handle that i've been
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
called fat and teased my whole life about it. I can handle that. The things that kind of use that bother me is like, damn, my music. I love my music. I feel like I'm so, it's like, they're like my babies, you know, that's like looking at my baby and being like, maybe ugly. Yeah. Oh, bitch. That. And like the content of my character, those two things really, really,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Mind you, Truth Hurts have been out for like three years at that point. Oh, had it really? Yeah, I put out Truth Hurts in like 2017 and I think they put in something great 2018, 2019. Yeah, yeah. I was like, okay, cool.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
it really used to get under my skin when people had something wrong to say or negative to say, or you know what I mean? About those two things. I'm very protective and defensive of those. So I am nervous because this new album deals with both of those things directly, the content of my character and my ability as a musician. And I'm like, Oh my God, if, if you don't like this, you don't like me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But it's like, I can't think that way. I have to remember that. it's still just art to people. Songs come out every day. Be, I was listening to new music Friday in the gym and the song that somebody had been working on for fucking years came on and I press next. So it's like, it is what it is. And I think that like, I'm learning how to be more protective of myself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Um, and I'm, and I'm building thicker skin because I'm at the point now where, um, anyone can say anything about me and it can be true.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I have to be okay with that. I have to just live. You know what I mean? Because it's not the truth.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Man, I'd have to say that there are a few vulnerable points, but I have one song that it's not sonically vulnerable, but it's the first time I wrote a song that doesn't have a happy ending. And I normally always like the Lizzo thing to do is to be like, okay, you went through some shit. walk your fine ass out the door. And, um, or okay. All right. We going to be all right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
This time I was writing it. And I remember being, I was, I wrote it with, um, Ricky Reed. And I remember being like, okay, but I have to say like, it's going to be okay by like, maybe like the bridge or something or how I'm working through it. And he was like, no, you don't have to, if you, if you don't want to. And he was like, and personally he, You never do anything like this.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That shit went so crazy. It launched Truth Hurts to a number one song. A song that had been out for three years from that one sync. And mind you, it was very routine for me. I was like, okay.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So allow yourself to be vulnerable and allow yourself to receive help in a weird way, energetically, or ask for help. That, whoo, baby. I do not ask for help. I'm a Taurus. I'm terrible.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Wait, what's your moon? Libra. Oh. Okay. That's why she's a bitch. Because I was like, wait, it's not the Taurus. It's the Capricorn. What's your rising? You're not a bitch. We love you. You're a bitch with a backstory. Yes, I have chills. I have chills.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Wait, what? What happened? What happened? Like, so much. What? You know, one thing about us tourists is we've lived many lives. Yes. I'm on, like, life five right now. Like, I've worked every job. I've been through every experience. I accidentally trauma dumped just, like, reminiscing. I'm like, remember that one time? And then my mom was like, oh, my, are you okay? I'm like, I'm not, actually.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Capricorn rising. That's the hard work. Actually, work. Because Taurus is all about hard work and steadfastness. Capricorn is all about hard work. You love making money then because the Capricorn loves making money to make your materialistic Taurus self happy. That's amazing. Libra moon. Are you indecisive though? Maybe, maybe all your earth balances out the Libra. Yeah, I believe.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Approved. Approved. But listen, that one approval can change your life. Okay? If you watching at home, always say yes. But have like a year of yes. You know what I mean? A year of yes. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But maybe you can weigh options really well. Maybe you weigh options really quickly because of that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I've known of it for so long and learned so much about it for so long, I have no choice.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm a Leo rising. Hey, the hair performer. Right. You know, my moon is Virgo. So very like overthinker, anxious stomach problems. And then the Taurus. But that the Capricorns are always the assholes. God bless them. They don't mean the worst. What's your chart?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, oh, wait. No, I was going to say, do you have the same chart as my sister?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
My sister is Scorpio's son. No, no, no, no, no. Wait, I don't know her chart anymore. And I know everyone's chart. That's embarrassing for me. I don't think your chart is bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
If you were Gemini, if you were Scorpio son, Gemini moon, I'd be scared.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was really trying, you guys. I really fucking tried. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Water, air, air. But then, like, the Scorpio is also multiple signs because it's the Phoenix.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So you have all this duality in your big three. Are you grounded by anything? What's your Venus?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And one thing about Scorpios, they always have, like, really glassy eyes. I think I do have glassy eyes. Your eyes are so glassy and watery, and it's just, like, just beautiful, though. Oh, thank you. Yeah, like, almost like a doll's, you know, like a doll has, like, little glass eyes. Yes, yes. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But the Gemini, maybe you don't give me Scorpio at all, but maybe that's because of all the Gemini in there.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You really did. And you have nothing in your chart that would indicate that you would make it work for you. Everything in your chart would indicate that you would. Fuck. I'm so sorry. Yeah, that it wouldn't work. Right, right. But here you are.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, wow. Yeah. So what's your life like? What's everyday like? Like, what?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Scorpio is like dark sided. Yeah. So you have like a kind of macabre mind net. Well, not your mind. Cause it's not your moon, but your nature is a little, you can, you can go to the dark side, but because of that Gemini moon, you're, you have a thirst for knowledge. You know what I mean? You're like, well, you're like a sponge. You'll absorb a lot of shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
my mind I don't I have a crazy imagination oh right because you were saying as a kid you didn't watch TV really when I do when I do watch TV I can only watch one show at a time it's normally reality TV or like a really good show so I can watch RuPaul's Drag Race I'll watch like real housewives type shit. I love housewives.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But right now, because I am watching one television show, I can't watch the other ones. I'm watching Severance.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was like, what the hellie? What the hellie are? What the hellie auntie?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That was a hard one. It was. Mostly because, like, where the fuck y'all running?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Pretty cool. Pretty rude. And I don't even know if that's like the heart of the message. It's not like just saying yes, but it's just like, it's the little things. You just never know what can change your life. Right. Like what was the little thing that changed your life? What was the moment where you were like, oh shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Why are you running? Where the fuck are you going? What is that from? It's a Bollywood movie. Yes, what is that? She's like, ah! He said, why are you running? Where are you going? Like, what the fuck? Where y'all going? Gorgeous gowns. Beautiful shots. I knew it was filmed because the way that the lighting was kind of like smattering on the walls. I was like, wow, they shot this in film.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Good for them. But where the fuck y'all going? And why the fuck?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
how did milkshake first of all not get out the door let's start there right because all of a sudden he joined the marvel universe right and has super fucking powers right he could fly in the air and like fucking chung lee kick the goddamn thing the door whatever it was so why the fuck you couldn't get it open right how you couldn't get it open milkshake I'm mad. I was mad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Here's my problem with Cobell. Here, oh. Here's what I love about Patricia Arquette. Great at playing a villain.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Because when I say I don't like Cobell and we're not supposed to like Cobell, great job, sweetie. Yeah. Give her her fucking flowers. Right. Because it's hard to play, like, a villain and then also, like, have people, like, a divisive villain. Now people have, like, sympathy for her. Great job, honey. Back to the character. So we take the personal all out of it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It did nothing for the plot this season. Maybe it's teed up for next season.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, I wasn't truly gagged. Or did I think, I don't know. I thought she just had a crush on Marcus. Yeah. It really gave like, I'm obsessed with him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I love her being obsessed with him because, you know, make that something. Right. We still don't know why the fuck Marcus is important. I don't know why he's important. I don't get it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You have plenty of fodder for season three to bait us with. Cobel inventing it. I don't actually think I needed to know who invented severance. I don't think I needed to know that. It's weird, it's mysterious and important. And I'm cool with that. But now it's like, Kobelle made it up and I don't even really fuck with her like that. Why don't you fuck with Shani like that?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But shout out to Patricia Arquette for playing a great character. Milkshake is one of my favorite. I know it's Milkshake. Milkshake is one of my favorite characters written on TV in the last decade.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
He got deep on this season, but he got deep on the other end of the spectrum where it's like, actually, I'm not rooting for you anymore.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Why the fuck you got a motorcycle? Right. How do you dress? Well, he doesn't have an innie, so technically he's always his outie. But it's like, well, what do you do? Like, what do you dress like when you're not at work? They don't force you to wear those stupid shirts.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Because, like, he's got a sense of style, and when he has control, he be stepping on necks. Like, the outfit that they had when they were in the, like, woods, the big fur. Yes, yes, yes. I was like, bitch, you better... You better. So I think they are going to expand on that. We've been seeing him like crack a little bit and I love it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
There's a show on Netflix. It's called, oh, God. Adolescence. Is it? It's got crazy eyes from Orange is the New Black. Miss Uzo.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yes. Songs that changed your life for 500 Alex. Cause that's, that's a big one. Like I want to hear the song. So this song changed your life, but is there another like definitive song that just like, yeah, I've never been the same since hearing.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
The Strokes actually inspired Love and Real Life. Really? Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I love the strokes. Man, nobody like them. That's like dance on the couch music.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
God. Oh, my God. I can't imagine. And it changed my life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Now we have to go to concerts that changed our life. I know. I'll say a song that changed my life, Crazy in Love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Greatest. Like, my heart's. I'm such a psycho. No, you're not. Listen, we have like, we stay in the same like decade in glam. So every day in glam, we just stay between like 2000 and we stay between like 98 and 2000 and like eight or whatever. Anyway, when that, when that plays, my heart still races. And I have to go, yes. So crazy right now. So I know it changed my brain chemistry. Now concerts.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Damn it. It's Destiny's Child. You saw Destiny's Child? I saw Destiny's Child. Yep.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was in fifth grade, yeah. And I saw them. But I will say, that wasn't a concert. It was like a promotional show outside of a Walmart on Dunnville in Houston, Texas. So it wasn't like, let me come up with a better concert. You first, though.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Okay, I have my concert that was, like, soul-shattering, life-changing, brain-opening. I saw... So, mind you, D'Angelo is, like... How does it feel? He was just like a massive R&B star. Then he disappeared for like years and years and years and years. He came back with a resurgence album, like I'm telling you, like 20 years later type shit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And before that album, though, he did a show at First Avenue in Minneapolis, which is like where Purple Rain was filmed, where like Prince played all the time. He did a show there and it was just him and Questlove on the drums. Oh, wow. And they just like freestyled a whole concert.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And I lost my shit. I was like, what is happening? Right. You can literally, it just made you love like being a musician. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
and being an instrumentalist and just like being in the free flow of things i was like this is sick watching two like masters just play right was fire i also seen that with erica badu she like hosted an award show in dallas that i went to once on a whim with my friend and she just was like hey y'all like i'm hosting but then at the end she was like man fuck this shit let's do a concert and she did a whole just off the dome i love that that
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
might be my favorite moments like off the cuff right plan right just like freedom of expression moments right i i don't think i've ever i don't think i've ever gotten to see someone do that i really i really do want to we can do it right now you first
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Okay. Jake Shane. I'm here on therapist. Because in you I do trust. Oh shit. I got. It's so bad. I. I actually had the best bars. And then once I hopped in off beat, I was fucked from the jump.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was fucked from the jump. It's like double dutch when you like, oh shit, I got the rhythm. And then when you, you got to get the rhythm or you're fucked.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Then don't watch it. I know. That's what I'm saying. No point. God, you had to be there. Wow. When that first came out, I was like, no fucking way. My brain was all over the fucking walls. I was like, how did they pull... Television just... They don't do it like that no more. Do you know what I mean? So for them to be able to pull that off in a social media era was insane.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You've played Zip, Zap, Zam, so now you think you can be on SNL? Yeah, essentially. Have you played Zip, Zap, Zam? I've never played Zip, Zap, Zam. Okay, so... My life is Zip, Zap, Zam. Okay, my life is one big improv. I'm like, oh shit, what's gonna happen next? But you know, you joke through it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You know, it's given. She's alive. Yes. I was just thinking that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
No, they win. Yeah, they win. It was the best season of television. Oh, it was so good. Honestly, ever.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, no, I had a whole season two. I, you know, I have to be late. Severance train late. Yeah. It's all good.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I don't watch TV. Remember I watch one show every year. Try the leftovers.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
All right. That was a lot to unpack because I honestly don't get it. Mission Complete Destroy. Did they set him up with... Oh, it was a joke?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And it also depends where you're at in your life. Are you going through it right now? Are you like, oh, it's so hard to find love? And then it's like, oh, finally, my friends hooked me up with this nice guy, and I haven't been on a date in months, and I've had this horrible heartbreak.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And then he asks you your fucking blood type, and you find out it was all a joke, and they're laughing at you behind your fucking back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, because it fucks with your feelings, but it also fucks with your self-esteem. Like, if somebody don't text me back, even somebody I've been in love with for five years and I've been with them for five years, if he doesn't text me back, I'm like, fuck, he hates me. Right. And it's like, and I know he loves me. So it's like, no. How do you get them back? Never speak to them again. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
How do you get them back? Unfollow them. Block, block, block.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
No. I hate to say that to this person because they're real and they're watching this and that's a bummer, but.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, this is tough, because violence is never the answer.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, I've experienced someone I knew throw a drink on someone I knew, and... Me too. I felt so bad for him.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
He ain't being an asshole. Get your drink thrown on you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh. I would say it was... I... Ooh. What is it? The anxiety? I would have anxiety for like a year. Yeah. The girl didn't deserve it, but the guy, you know what? Don't fucking lie. This is what happens when you lie. Agreed. I hate people who fucking lie.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah. Like laugh through the pain. That's what my music is though. My music is like the joy through the pain. I'm like, wow, this was actually really shitty. How do I turn this into a silver lining? How do I turn this into a hit? Right. And I do every time. It's therapy.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yes. I don't even do it because I feel so bad. You know, at a certain point it's like, oh, I don't want to drink gin anymore because I get so badly hungover. So you just stop drinking gin. I don't even lie anymore because the-
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
lie over whatever a hangover for lying is is shit it's hell it's so bad so now it's just like how does she recover from like the anxiety and the shame that she probably like because she'll probably just be having like a good day like i'm gonna go get like one of them new matchas i'm gonna go get a lavender matcha and she out getting a lavender matcha and then she gets like attacked by the memory oh
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Like, I'll be having a great day and I get attacked by memories out of, like, randomly. So, like, what does she do? How does she get through that part? Because I think that's going to be the hardest part. It's mind over matter.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah. I don't even like to raise my voice. Oh, I do. Really?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I think that people might hate. because I'm that person who gets calmer as things get more and more intense. You know that person who's calm and is like, oh, you think you're better than me because you're not mad because you're calm? I'm that person who's just like, okay, I heard what you said. I'm going to internalize it, and let's just talk about this at another time.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm that girl, which probably makes people more mad. Sorry.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Right. But it's so crazy because my boyfriend is really calm.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And, you know, when you're in love, you get emotional. Like, and I will be like, and he's like really calm. And I'm like, that's a taste of my own medicine.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It is insane. I just don't like the feeling of being that hot. I feel like my head's going to pop. You ever feel like that? Like when you're on a roller coaster and you're screaming, I feel like my head is going to pop. It's so terrifying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Okay, all right, next thing. Before both of our heads pop. It's hot as fuck in here. Do you want the fan on? Oh, no, it's okay. Are you sure? No, I'm committed to the bit.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I wholeheartedly disagree. I don't think you can find love on a dating app.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I have a theory. Actually, I don't have a theory. I have a... A philosophy, if you will. Dating apps are for hookup culture. It is, yeah. And hookup culture only. That's why men love it and women hate it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Right, right, right, right. Like, can you believe, like, LOL.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh my God. That is so funny. That's a really good question. Cause as an hour, I thought you were going, huh? The complete opposite. Soulmate. Maybe that I'm my own soulmate. I know how to love me. I know that I'm always gonna hold me down. That's on. Cause I love you. Check it out. That song. I was crying in the studio when I wrote it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Crazy. I got kicked off a hinge for impersonating a celebrity. It was me. Same with me. Same with me. The same thing happened with me. Hey, baby, I had a time. But I was only on hinge to prove a point. I was like, listen, let me show you. And I got so many guys. I got so many guys' numbers. It was so quick and easy because I followed the hookup culture rules. Right.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
The I want to be in love with you and have a real relationship rules do not work on dating apps. Right. I truly believe the best way to find love is when you are in a path of bettering yourself. And I know I sound so cliche. I used to fake it. I used to pretend like I'm not looking for love. I'm just trying to better myself and hope that a man falls in my lap.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
No, you have to really be on that path and really be good. You have to be like, oh, my gosh. Actually, don't mind being alone. I actually love the thought of just like, it's me for the rest of my life. And then boom, love like fucking comes out of nowhere. But it's always on your path of bettering yourself.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Because when you're on the path of self-destruction and it's dark, do you really want to meet somebody on that fucking road? I don't want to meet somebody on self-destruction boulevard. I want to meet somebody on... This is my life path. I'm bettering myself Avenue. Right. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. So that's the best place to find real love.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
If you want to hook up with somebody and also hook up with somebody where you have to realize that they're hooking up with a shit ton of other people, go to a dating app.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
If you want to get over somebody, get under somebody else. Use the dating app. But if you're looking for love, that's not the place. I do believe that love happens on dating apps. Don't blanket state in me. The internet will blanket statement a fucking, they'll take a two second clip. I know, I know. You can find love, but I think that that is a exception to the rule.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm not in danger. Then you're like, can I even give him my number? Because stranger danger. Then you have to trust that. And then once you have their number and you're talking for a while in the text, then it's like,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
okay do I feel safe enough to see this person in person right but what I was doing was following hookup culture rules which is very like alright fuck all this app shit where's your number right get their number alright when we linking up link up go get lunch you know what I mean I was doing that and I found that I had results but that's it's insanity right
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, I mean, and it works. I think I can only give it like confidently, this confidently, because I'm like, I've seen the results. I've seen it work. And I've also seen it not work. I see what doesn't work. You know what I mean? I've dealt with the dating apps and I have friends who deal with dating apps and we get like stuck in a holding pattern being like. Well, he didn't text me back.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I texted him. And then it's like, well, he didn't say let's link up and I'm not going to say let's link up, you know. And so you kind of get like stuck in this pattern and it gets like redundant and you're just like, ah, it gets very stale. So I don't know. I do think that you can find. A relationship on a dating app. Let me say that. And I think that sometimes it goes really well.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was crying and I wrote that song because it was who I wanted to be. I was like, when I sing this song in a year, this will be me. I will believe these words. But bitch, I did not believe those words when I was writing it. Interesting.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Sometimes it's a here for a season, you know, gone for a reason. So I don't want to discourage you personally. I think that if you're on the apps, also be pursuing the best version of yourself. And I think the app can be a tool to attract a good partner.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Get a man or honestly, because that's my petty advice is get a boyfriend and watch him act up.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
He's going to act the fuck up. But don't get a boyfriend just to piss him off. But you can get anybody you want. You can get any man you want, boo. Where's my camera? Camera two? You can get any man you want, boo. Go out there, get you a man, and pay him no fucking mind. It's going to drive him crazy, but you also need to... I always learned that you have to show people how to treat you.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So if you want him to treat you with respect and stop manipulating you, then show him who the fuck you are. I'm your friend. We're nothing more than that. Unless you want to be more than that. You didn't add that to the statement. So I'm assuming you don't want to be more than that. No, I think she does. Oh, she questioned it.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Have you seen? I would. I. Oh, I don't know. I would. Oh, I don't know. I would. I would get. I would get with someone else. Yeah. Get with someone else. It's your guy friend. He's like fucking up the sanctity of this, of the of the trust of the bond.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And then because you're friends first, you're like, oh my God, this is a fairy tale. Like this could like really, he could be the one.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, my God. We were we both worked on this TV show on TV. I was the music girl. He was the comedy guy. And like we were just I was like, he's my best friend. I don't I didn't have any like guy friends like that. I did because I'm in the music industry. But I was like, wow, I can really talk to him. And we had this like crazy bond for years. And then I do love that we were friends first.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So I hate that he's doing this to her because, like, that is low-key, like, a fantasy. Right. It's like a book talk dream to be like, oh, my God, like, he was my best friend and then one day he just looked at me differently.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But I don't like that he's being manipulative about it now. Right. he's from, from our perspective, he's being manipulative. Let me step into his shoes. Let me step into his Louboutins and see what the fuck he's going through. Cause maybe he's fighting his feelings for her. And maybe he's like, If I show other girls, show her other girls, will she get jealous?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Maybe I don't know how she feels about me. Yes. But I think it's still manipulative. It is. But it might be kind of cute if that's why. I know. That's cute if that's the reason, if that's the why. I think the best way to solve it is to flirt with another guy, get with another guy, and see how he reacts. And then y'all are going to have to have the talk. I know.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Well, I don't even think it's like something that... Oh, you know what manifestation is? You don't believe in manifestation. You believe in yourself. That's what true manifestation is. I agree. It's like I need to state these things about my life that I want to be true. And sometimes it's just like maladaptive daydreaming. Like when I was a kid, I would I didn't need TV. I didn't need movies.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm sorry. Wait, rewind. The baby's coming in one month and her daddy don't know?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You know, this is how you do it. This is your. Say hello to your beautiful grandbaby.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That's your friend baby now. It's like, oh yeah, this is my friend. My friend just had a baby. Okay, it's like, because why are you afraid to tell him? What kind of dad is he? Is he super strict? Right. Does he know that you are- We're missing context. Active sexually? Right. Do you know what I mean? Like, you can't hide a person. You can maybe hide a bump.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You can't hide a human. I don't know. Here's the thing. What's worse? Telling- Your dad whilst you're pregnant or telling your dad when the baby's here? What's going to hit worse?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Because you know what I was going to say? It'd be a bummer for him to miss the birth. Birth. That would be a bummer. And you would regret him not being there for the rest of your life and the baby's life.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
So I would tell him now. And I guess part two of the question was, what's the best way? Yeah. You got to be sitting. You got to do it in a way.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I would be like, you know, those like videos of people like. surprising their family with surprise. You know, I'm pregnant. And then the dads are crying. Right. If you can find like a really sentimental way to do it, I think it'll take the sting out of it. Right. Maybe get like a cake and it's like a big cake and he cuts the cake in the middle and you spread it open.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Actually, one of the worst ideas I've ever heard in my entire life. Because you don't want to add the element of surprise and embarrassment. Yeah, I know. He's like, you're filming me, bitch. Yeah. But if you're filming him, maybe he'll be like, oh, this is evidence. Let me not. I can't freak out. It's bad.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
In a public place. Go to dinner. Talk about safety. Yeah. Take him out to dinner. Take him out to dinner. There's people around. He can't truly crash out as badly as he would if you were alone. And then be like, hey, something sweet's going down in here. A human being formed. Life. Mitochondria. Proteins. Yeah. Semen. Cause that's the part he not fucking with.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I didn't need Nan. I could sit and just, like, fantasize about things. And I would just, like, imagine my life. And I know this is going to sound so silly, but I used to, like, hold little, like, shampoo bottles and stuff and, like, do speeches in the mirror. And I would be like, I just want to thank my mommy and my daddy. And, like, this is such a huge honor.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, wow. Before you are like full of like really bad ideas, but that's what makes you a genius.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You know what? First, sit your dad down and be like, hey, have you ever thought about being like a grandfather?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Damn, we're being microwaved. We are. We're being air fried.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
We were microwaved in like the early 2000s. This is air fried level. Oh, it is. It's delicious a little. One, two, three. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, that's true. We're going to look up and it's going to literally be like 2035.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Do you think that if we lived like in the world with no phones, would time slow down?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I don't even enjoy it anymore. No. That's when you know it's an addiction where you're just like, ugh.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, my God. No, literally. I mean, that's how you do it. You got to do it for yourself first. Let's go to phone rehab. And then let's make phone rehabs all over America and then the world.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm about to throw my phone away. Come on, Still Bad by Lizzo. Who said that? Who started promoting a single? Who was that? Is there some sort of single promotion spirit in here?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Love in real life. The baby is love and then when you push the baby out, it'll be real life. That's fuck.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I think that's so... You know what? This is so dark. But it's going to be one of those things you miss when she's gone.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And my stuffed animals, like, propped up. Like, so I don't know why I did that kind of stuff, but then I look up and I'm actually there and I'm like, oh my God, I used to like practice this when I was a kid. I used to play award show when I was like eight.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Hello. Ooh. Ooh. It's better than the fucking alternative. Right. Appreciation. Like sit back and just like appreciate it. Right. And put yourself in someone else's shoes. Some people's parents don't even fucking talk to each other. Yeah. And yours are like fucking.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And passionately enjoying each other's fucking words. Texting like teenagers. Yeah. What are you, ungrateful? I'm just kidding.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
There's things about my mom that I'm like, oh, mom. But I had to reframe that because now it's like, God, let me like cherish my mommy. Like I have my fucking mommy. Right. And she's silly. She's a silly Billy and she's quirky. And it's like these things that like you're I think all kids were just like programmed to be like, oh, let me alone. You're so annoying to our parents.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
And like it never goes away. But it's just like at a certain point, it's like it's kind of cute.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Find the cuteness in it. Move forward. And also stop being so fucking nosy. What is she? She not texting. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like a big screen TV right in front of you. Right. She's texting on her phone. Mind your business. Right. Mind your grown business then.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
That's what I would do every time. I'd be like, you know what? That reminds me. Eggplant, eggplant, eggplant.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Aw, I'm happy to be here. I'm so happy you're here. We could literally do this all day. If I weren't going to, like, sweat my life away. Like, I literally have pit sweat.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, my God. We learned so much. You know what I fucking learned? Sorry, on my own. That I am... still growing and I'm still learning. And like that part of me that I was like mourning in 2019, I finally fully mourned her. And that's so exciting. I feel like a new girl. I feel lighter. I feel fresh. Thank you for helping me. You were like a therapist. A therapist!
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm so happy to be here. Thank you for having me. This was so fun.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I didn't actually really like personally announce it. It's just announced, but it is announced. I didn't do my big one. I have to do my big one. It was like a subliminal announce. I went around and was like, yes, because when we were supposed to announce it, I didn't know that because it was coming out with the videos. You haven't announced it, so that's why. I didn't make it a big deal.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Guess what, pussies? Breaking news. My album, Love in Real Life, is not out yet.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I know. I know what you mean. I try to make award shows really fun by just telling myself I'm not going to win. It's like the opposite of manifestation for me. I'll go to the Grammys and be like, I'm here to get drunk with Adele. Yeah. And then I do. And then I win record of the year. And I was like, fuck. I didn't think of anything. I didn't plan anything. But that's how I make it fun for me.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm like, it's prom. I get to dress up. I get to look cute. I have a date. And I get to drink free drinks.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Maybe the memes that were burst from that. Really? Yeah. I think I did like a, and then like, remember the old lady praying and then like the world exposed? That was like my favorite one from that. Yeah.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I thought you were going to say, I didn't know memes existed back then. No, no. I was going to say, don't try me, honey. I'm a Gen Alpha diva. You're Gen Alpha? I'm Gen Alpha. I was born yesterday. Can't you tell? I'm fucking dumb.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Gen Beta has just been born. First Betas. Oh, yeah. All of Gen Z's karma.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
You know, like I, and it's like, I don't know. It's fear. You know, everybody's like, well, everybody's a snitch. You know what I mean? Like the club is full of ops, you know, and you're like being filmed and it's like, I dare you to have fun, bitch. Oh,
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
let loose dance like no one's watching bitch because i got you seven million people will be watching you very so you're gonna go viral just for living your life but not for the good reasons right all viral ain't good viral don't know the internet don't know that they think all viral is good viral it's not it's like all press is good press it's like no sometimes when my video is going viral i get i have like an anxiety attack really and i'll be like oh fuck
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'll be like, what did I do wrong? I did something wrong. Cause I don't read comments anymore. And I don't like, I don't have context with anything anymore. I live in a bubble. So I'll send it off and I'll be like, like to my friend, my best friend, I'll be like, like, so what they say, they eat me up or am I eating them up? Yeah. You know, but like, no, it's terrifying.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
about two years ago it's liberating liberating liberating I used to and I never read like I never like scrolled through my comments because that sounds like hell but also tiktok comments got so mean you know what I really stopped after the fairy backhanded compliments trend do you remember that
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, cute. I love your, I don't even know. It would be like, that's so cute. Maybe you should stop breathing. And I'm like, wait, what bitch? And so I stopped after that. Cause I was like, they might trick me with a cute emoji and say something evil.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Right now, it's like, Jesus loves you. He died for you. He died for your sins. And now they're saying Gaga loves you. She died for your sins. They say that? Yes, they'll change it to whoever their diva is. And I'm like, what is happening?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Mm, Stan culture. Yes, I think it's like organized religion. There's the church of- Whoever they worship. Yeah, there's the church of the beehive. Right. It's their own church. Lovely. I mean, listen, I love that.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
They all have their different like outfits that they wear. They have their different praise and worship. Yeah. Their different service, their communion.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, of course. Well, Beyonce has a habit of playing shows on my birthday. The first one is L.A., right? No way. Is it L.A.? Am I wrong? Somebody Google it. Because I have a story if it's true and if it's not true. I don't have a story? First one is L.A., April 28th. Hell yeah. So my birthday is April 27th, but we're going to say that it's the 28th for the sake of the story.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
But she has a habit of starting her tours on my birthday, and I have a habit of going to whatever city she's in.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm going to fly to L.A. I'm going to fly from my house, too. I mean, I'm here. I live here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I'm flying from Bev Hills to Inglewood to see her perform. I'm so excited.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Oh, right. Because what did they say? Like, it was 2016. Yeah, it was Coachella 2016.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
Yeah, neither was I. I was, like, stressed out and working because I moved here.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
for a gig i didn't i lived in minneapolis and i really loved it i had like a beautiful house on the north side i loved my my quiet life what is what bell from beauty and the beast like this province i had a provincial life you know yes i can walk to the coffee shop and have a coffee and a bagel and it was very green and beautiful and then it was like okay move to la or stay in minneapolis and not
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
you know, work on this album with Atlantic Records, not have this TV show with MTV. And I was like, can I just fly every week?
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
you know what's so crazy when i first came out it was it was like 2019 2020 podcasts were not like right popping and like the thing so i never i didn't do any podcasts i don't have a podcast trail i don't have a paper podcast trail so then by the now it's been three years since my last like album and now it's like podcast that's like the fucking thing to do i'm having so much fun that is so interesting so the press cycle has completely changed for you guys
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
I was really, like, they were dragging me. And then I finally did it. And I'm really happy I did because I love working and I love L.A. But I know a lot of people move here and they shit on L.A. They're like, oh, I hate it here. But, you know, I just have to be here to work. I actually do really like L.A. now.
Therapuss with Jake Shane
Session 72: Lizzo
It grows on you when you're not so fucking lonely all the time. It's just really lonely when you first get here.
This Is Important
Ep 240: Weed Is Cool?
It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me, and that disconnect is depressing.
This Is Important
Ep 240: Weed Is Cool?
The weight that is no longer on me is not just fat or physical. I released so much to get to this point. And to be honest with you, I don't feel like I've expressed myself fully in the last two years.
This Is Important
Ep 240: Weed Is Cool?
It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing.
This Is Important
Ep 240: Weed Is Cool?
It's not me anymore. Whoever Lizzo is to the world is not really even me. And that disconnect is depressing.