Lloyd Blankfein

And I looked for jobs I knew nothing about.

I interviewed a lot.

And being in New York, what do you go into when you're done?

Whether you go to become a consultant or...

you know, go to Wall Street.

I said, I'll go to Wall Street.

And, you know, I will bestow myself on them.

They'll should be so grateful to have me.

I knew nothing about it.

And, of course, I got a job nowhere.

And the only place I got a job, including by the way, Goldman, where I didn't get a job.

And the only place that offered me a job was J. Aaron and Company, the small commodity trading firm that I had never heard of.

And they hired me as a

a precious metals salesperson.

And right around that time, they were acquired by Goldman, which is how I got into Goldman.

Amazing.

And was that where you kind of learned to be a risk manager?

I mean, that's like one of your most famous kind of qualities, but I don't know, maybe...

I don't know, I don't think much of our audience probably has a good understanding for what kind of trading in the 80s or 90s kind of looked like, either a Jaron or a... It hasn't shifted, you know, the vehicles have changed, the thing, but the, you know, the kind of judgments and the perspective that you believe.

I think...