Lloyd Blankfein

And he said, that could be interesting.

He called up, that one called up somebody on the equity desk, said, work with Lloyd.

My tie, I didn't even have a title at that point.

I love that.

So I, you know, I remember I asked when they merged into Gomez, I said, what's my title?

And the guy said, call yourself Contessa if you want.

So no title.

And,

He said, so did somebody work me?

And they did.

And the first order that came in, and this was like in, back when this was real money, was for $100 million worth of this.

That was by far the biggest trade ever.

And then they was doing, anyway, so that's how, and you want to be that way in your organization.

And by the way, that's an easier thing in your line of work.

Where the entrepreneurs are,

are advantaged by their lack of attachment to history and tradition and the old way of doing things.

Where the iconoclast is the, in your business, the iconoclast and the young guy are celebrated.

Not only celebrated, they're the, you know,

They're the focus.

Sure.