Lois Logan

But when I was playing school sport and playing lacrosse and netball, athletics was a bit different.

I always wanted to be good at athletics because when I started doing high jump when I was younger, I'm not an athlete at all anymore.

But when I was good at high jump, I did always feel like because I used to go and win a lot of competitions.

If I didn't win, I used to really beat myself up about it and not feel great about it.

But I never felt like there was that competitive element between us.

So maybe in my kind of subconscious, I kind of always feel like I have to be the academic person because he's now a kind of sports person.

Not that again, not that I am an academic at all, but you know what I mean?

When I write lists, they're too long and just and so endless.

I think it's because I also from a very early age, I get up at six o'clock.

and I'm outside for four hours sorting animals out and doing things, and I'm already up and doing things and I get in, but that has become a part of my life and so it doesn't feel like a chore or a part of my day anymore.

I guess it's like a less extreme version of motherhood.

Yeah, yeah.

And so I've already done a lot for someone before kind of 10 o'clock, but it doesn't feel like I've done anything at all.

And so then I sort of beat myself up about it, but actually I have done something, but it's almost just become...

Part of my... But it has to be done.

Yeah, well, that's the thing.

They need you.

But then I've come in and I've got 20 other things that I've got on my list that are going to take me two days to do.

And then I get to the end of the day and I'm like, I haven't done all of that.

I failed.