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Lori Stern

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253 total appearances

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Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

was, and his mom, Crystal Doremus, she's a big personality.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

I met her at the small house she was renting in a working-class neighborhood of St.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Paul.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

A few of Walt's nine siblings also live there.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Crystal is paraplegic, so she guided me up the walkway in her wheelchair.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

I don't think it's the push, it's the flippery.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

When we got inside, I could hear the smoke alarm going off, and I asked her if we could do anything about it.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

She said no, she was used to it, along with all the other issues in the house.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

We talked more about her housing situation, and I got to know her preschooler, Deshai.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

How is it being five?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And meeting Deshaie put things in perspective for me.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Remember, Aisha, Walt was around Deshaie's age, just five, when he started acting out.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Yeah, you're right.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

It's really complicated.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

She didn't like the padded timeout rooms and the heavy-handed way the school enforced discipline, but she also felt it was a bit of a safety net.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

And you know how you were talking about your daughter's classmate needing some help?

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Well, Walter did too, and he actually got some help outside of school.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

You know, this is where we get back to how hard it is to measure EBD.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

and progress for students with that label.

Up First from NPR
The hidden cost of separating 'emotionally disturbed' students

Other special ed designations have measurable goals, but EBD doesn't have goals that are straightforward to measure.