Louis Theroux

And at the same time, he deplores the idea of women being promiscuous.

So it's complicated.

The internet is very lucrative.

I sometimes say it's very lucrative to be a dick on the internet.

It's almost become a job to actually go online and be a plonker.

And at the same time, it doesn't come from nowhere.

They know it resonates with people.

Not partly because it's funny to some and partly because they're connecting with the idea of feeling disempowered and that there needs to be a reset and that men aren't getting taken seriously enough.

Right.

Well, as a program maker and having sort of lived through this disruption of the media landscape, that part of it I find quite depressing.

Like, you know, the fact that all of the big channels, the legacy channels, BBC, Channel 4, ITV are struggling, right?

That I do find depressing.

As a student of the human condition,

who has a kind of pyromaniacal pleasure in observing the degeneracy of how we are as people, like something I think I might've got from my dad.

I do actually quite enjoy sort of luxuriating in the awfulness of what we are.

No, I haven't.

And first of all, it's high praise.

It's very high praise.

My dad is, as you know, a serious literateur, someone who's brilliantly gifted, novelist and travel writer with an international reputation, more than 50 books to his name, garlanded.

And I think the novels perhaps deserve more attention than they're given.