Louis Theroux

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Have a conversation with someone who's at the top of their profession and who will be a name that's known to many of you.

And also to talk a little bit about comedy.

But we're coming up to that.

However, over the years, he has come under fire for various reasons.

In 2012, there was his involvement in a wholly legal but nevertheless controversial tax avoidance scheme.

More recently, there were jokes...

that some people didn't like.

We speak in particular about one he made in 2021 on his Netflix special, His Dark Material.

I was keen to talk to Jimmy because he's a big name, a talented comedian.

I know him a little bit, but also because I was hoping to speak about comedy.

And it's a common topic in the sort of, is it the culture wars or these conversations about free speech, what we can and can't say,

You know, there's a narrative that says, wokeness is killing comedy.

And then there's another that says, bullies online are trolling people and it's not funny and they're pretending to be funny and you shouldn't be allowed to do that, right?

There's this binary narrative.

And of course, it's all more complicated than that.

And I don't even know if we answered any of those questions, but we gave it a good fist.

That could be a little bit like a rude joke right there.

Expect more of that kind of humor.

We recorded this conversation in November this year at Spotify HQ.