Louis Theroux

Have you met Peter Thiel?

Eric Weinstein, is it academic?

Who became a figure of sort of intellectual and cultural pundit, sort of on the right, I would say.

Did he?

Yeah.

Sometimes called heterodox thinkers, people who are outside the constraints of what would be perceived as sort of conventional liberal orthodoxy.

That all may be the case.

I definitely see social media as being, and the internet as being a huge part of what's happening.

And when you mention...

mainstream media being disrupted, obviously.

And I don't see like the BBC or legacy media is being replaced.

I think they now have to exist in a jungle alongside all the other beasts, if you like, big beasts of Spotify, Netflix, TikTok, and so on.

So, you know, the mainstream or legacy outlets still have enormous influence, but, and as does academia, but yeah,

They don't monopolize the conversation the way they did.

And I also think that the idea of like 50 years ago or 35, 40 years ago, many of the same ideas existed.

You know, Trumpism, it wasn't called that, but there was a sort of nativist outlook that was embodied by certain politicians, but it tended to be gatekept out of the conversation to an extent.

Geopolitics is a nice segue.

We can touch this or not.

I'll be guided by you.

The Riyadh Comedy Festival was in the news.