Louise Ayrey

I haven't watched it.

But I do.

That's what I walked away with.

I was like, God, I really wish I could.

I think I'd last five minutes.

It's like a little splash of glamour in my wardrobe.

Well, we're recording this at 6am in the morning and neither of us is looking particularly glamorous to say that.

What are you saying?

We're in the same boat.

Right, today we're going to talk about how in this age of constant connectivity, the way we engage with news and one another online can have profound effects on our day and our mental well-being and the health of our societies.

It's just, you know, bilious.

At the same time, online spaces expose us to a wide range of opinions, often strongly held, passionately expressed.

Mm-hmm.

But engaging with people who struggle to see perspectives beyond their own can be frustrating.

It can be emotionally draining.

And this raises important questions about how we communicate, how we listen and how we maintain respect, even in disagreement.

To talk us through this, we're joined by Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia and author of the book, The Seven Rules of Trust.

Jimmy, welcome.

In the early days of the internet, there was so much possibility, wasn't there, and positivity.

Were we a bit naive to think that the combination of tech and human nature wouldn't turn just a little bit dark?