Louise Byrne

You know, it's not clear-cut.

Yes, they did campaign on the three-day wait, but they also campaigned on the fact there was going to be a review.

So people had to vote with their votes.

I'm sure they were, but at the same time...

And that's up to the doctor to intervene there.

And that places an onus on the doctor and it's an uncomfortable onus on the doctor.

But I was reading online recently, it was a post I think on Reddit about maternity services and someone pointed out that when their husband was outside the room, the doctor kept saying, you know, is there anything you need to speak about?

Is there anything you want?

to talk about.

And they kind of felt like, oh, God, they're they think the worst of my husband.

But apparently and Ronan are probably able to speak to this better than I am.

But apparently doctors are very aware, especially at such a vulnerable time, such as pregnancy, of the impact that that can have on women.

But I think to come back to Brenda's point about, you know, women have taught this through, of

Of course they've thought it through.

You can't say that for every single woman.

But you can say for not for every single woman around the world.

It's not an easy decision.

You say it as if women are just doing this.

No, in 2000 they went away and didn't come back.

But you don't know the circumstances under which they didn't come back.