Louise

Very, very hard to have a business in Northern Ireland in the 70s and 80s.

And he said to me, never work for yourself.

Never.

But...

entrepreneurialism runs in the blood like my cousin has a business my little sister has a business it's something if it's in you it's in you so I uh I start I started selling Avon to my mum's friends when I was like 16 so it's always something in me when I look back at my my life but

You were the earphone lady.

I was the earphone lady, yeah.

Did you use to knock on people's doors?

No, no.

I used to be in a church organisation and I would literally go on a Monday night and hand out my little things to all the mums and the other adults there and they would buy anyway, this whole thing.

You were pre-thinking networking, look at that.

Yes!

That's what I mean.

It was always in my blood.

So anyway, so whenever I had my kids on my first maternity leave, I'm just not the kind of person who, when the baby's asleep, you're meant to be asleep.

That's just not who I am.

So my little sister is very creative.

And I thought, oh, why don't we... We ended up having a card-making business, right?

And then we sold craft supplies online in 2000.

When was my first child born?