Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer
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first heard May 2025
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It's both. It could be both.
It's not mutually exclusive. It could be both. It could be true, a clue.
Don Rumsfeld said that.
So let me add something to that comment. But that wasn't a Gilmore Commission. Those are two separate things.
January of 2001, the options for us to go after al-Qaeda is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Hugh Shelton. That is to say, the culmination of our work is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. We are directed to stand down in January, right as Bush, the Bush team comes in. When Bush comes in, the Able Danger Project is stood down.
Let me ask you a question before I give you the five things. Why would you stand down a cutting-edge black special operations unit in January of 2001, right before you know there are threats from that very target located within the United States? Why would you do that? Who is you? The inbound Bush administration, Bush 43. Why would the Bush administration...
In January of 2001, as they're coming into office, stop, because there's evidence, because of the, basically, what, I'll answer your question, but I want to make sure we get this into the conversation. When, what's his name, went to the National Archives and took stuff out in his socks,
When Sandy Berger went into the National Archives, he stole a bunch of things, put it in his underwear and his socks.
He stole five documents. One of those documents was regarding the existence of Able Danger.
I don't believe that.
Again, why would you not want to have a full investigation of this?
I'm not saying that's not relevant.
I'm saying, though, that when you're briefed on a capability that clearly Condoleezza Rice and others said, oh, we knew something was coming a little bit. You know, they were all these memos. And that's a mystery we've asked to be told, too, because we were stood down. We were trying to say, as Kurt indicated, something's happening. We need to be on top of this.
Captain Scott Philpott was calling me constantly to go around his chain so we could reactivate this. I had a clandestine location there. In Old Town, Alexandria, he actually called me one time and says, can we use your clandestine location to springboard and get this going again? It's like, yeah, if you can do it. So why did they? We don't know.
I've got the five things for you. I think there's five likely events. We'll go through them one by one. First is... Government incompetence. They were completely just, nobody knew what the hell they were doing. Keystone cops all the way. And the 9-11 report is correct. That's one presumption. It's like, yeah, it's exactly like they said it. John Layman wrote the narrative. Everything is accurate.
Competence is, I think, a factor, no doubt.
Okay, a controlled operation that went wrong. Okay.
There is allegations, we've talked about them today, that at least two of the individuals were under control of CIA, that the FBI was also involved in some level because a guy named Anwar al-Awlaki, my friend Catherine Herridge is reporting on him, Anwar al-Awlaki was a controlled asset of the FBI who actually moved two of the 9-11 hijackers around, who later was assassinated as a U.S.
citizen by Barack Obama in Yemen, he and his son. Anwar al-Awlaki, there he is. He was, I would argue, I don't want to get off track here, but Anwar al-Awlaki actually lectured at the Pentagon in 2004 because he was brought in for, but he was actually handling two of the 9-11 individuals. He actually gave them a tour. He was out of there. Based on that, there could have been an aspect of the U.S.
government controlling individuals and them getting out of control. There's a movie called The Siege, which kind of covers this, if you remember that, with Bruce Willis and Denzel Washington. I was once told by a Pentagon official, by the way, in a random moment that, oh, that would never happen, which was a strange moment to look back on at this point.
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