Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling

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460 appearances 6 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 7 Jul

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Well, I could cite all kinds of examples, but when you have the kinds of release of information... or the kind of terrorizing of the intelligence community and what they produce and the knocking of their capabilities, it does everything to eliminate trust between nations.
Yeah, it's pretty damning. When I saw that, it was like, because I know Mark and Scott Kelly, by the way, both of the twin brothers, both are great guys. They are true patriots, unlike some of the patriot that's term that's used by others who aren't quite patriots. And they are trying to do the right things for the right reasons in every situation.
And to have someone with the visibility of Elon Musk say something like that about another individual, first of all, it's uncivil. And that's the best you can say about it. But secondly, it's, and I'll say this, it's idiotic.
Here's a South African saying someone that has rode a rocket, rode a piece of dynamite into the sky a couple of times and has conducted combat operations and really is trying to help a nation that's had its sovereignty and territorial integrity invaded. He's being called a traitor. It's mind-blowing in terms of the ridiculousness of it.
You have to refrain from becoming furious so many times every single day to just not react to this kind of craziness.
Well, and right after he calls him a traitor, he's ethically proclaiming all of the quality of his Tesla products on the lawn of the White House, which tells me that's tritorious toward how we look at the separation of the state and the citizens.
Yeah.
I'll go back to my army days, Tim, and say there are seven army values, and one of them is personal courage. And all our new soldiers think about, well, that means you attack and throw yourself on a grenade when your other... No, it also means standing up for what's right and doing the ethical and moral thing.
And what we've seen is a deterioration of that in some of our elected representatives who seem to have forgotten... the phrase representative in their name. They represent other people.
And yeah, they may be voted on by a majority or a plurality, but there's a great line in the play 1776 where the congressman from Georgia, and I can't remember off the top of my head the name, stands up and says he's going to vote for independence even though most of his constituents don't want to. And he was the remaining vote for the declaration.
And he says sometimes your morals have to override what the people tell you to do. And we're not seeing the personal courage or the morality of some of our members of Congress, which is the most disturbing part of all of what Trump has done to co-opt. I mean, I won't name his name, but I know him very well.
There was a congressman all over CNN and MSNBC yesterday, a Republican congressman, proclaiming how we had to stand with Ukraine. And bigger than Dallas, he voted for the CR last night, which basically shows he continues to support Trump when he knows that that was not a good CR. So anyway, that's my thought on it. And I don't know what we do about that.
All right, well, we'll see.
me.
Hey, Tim, how are you? It's a pleasure to be on with you today. Let's talk some things.
I don't know if I can do that, but we'll see.
You know, I tell you, Tim, it's interesting. I was at West Point last week. The seniors of the class picked their branches, which means infantry, armor, artillery. And I had the young woman who's the president of the class asked me to give a presentation to a smaller group of people that were part of her class. command staff.
And the first question they asked me is, what kind of threats are we going to face as new lieutenants going out into the field? So first of all, their head's on the right place. And secondly, I had to tell them is I had no frigging clue. You know, one of the things, you know, as a military guy is You know, when I entered West Point in 1971, the Vietnam War was going on.
By the time I left there, Europe was red hot. During my time, we never fought a war in Europe except the Cold War. But during my time in Europe, we went to Panama, Iraq in 1990, and then had a terrorist hit the buildings. So, you know, it changes and there's all kinds of black swans out there. That's my preview. Now what I'll tell you is what I'm concerned about.
is still an expanded war in the Middle East, even though it seems like Hamas is defeated or Hamas is destroyed, Hezbollah is partly defeated, Syria is... appears to get better right now, but you still have the Kurds wanting for their autonomous region that includes the areas within Syria, Turkey, Iraq, and Iran. So that's still a very dangerous area.
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