Lucia Aniello

And so for us, the idea that these women in the process of creating art together become more and more entrenched in each other's lives and it does change them as people and then therefore changes the work as well.

I think we're really interested in the way that the material comes from their lives and their lives then bleeds back into the material.

And so for us, you know, that was something that I don't think we had really ever seen before.

And it was really exciting to us to kind of explore.

You know, not a ton very directly just because, you know, we came up from making Broad City.

That was like kind of our first big break.

So we worked on all five seasons of that.

We had also done a little bit of work on the web series before it was a television show.

And then we went on to work on some other projects.

For example, I worked on a show called Aquafina's Nora from Queens.

And the day one of going into that writer's room, there were women in that room that were over, like, literally emotional because they were, it was the first time they were in a writer's room where they weren't only one of two women.

It was predominantly women.

And I was like, oh, babe, this is my life.

This is what my life is like.

I only work on shows like this.

Yeah.

And so, I mean, if anything, we've had such an opposite experience of what Debra Vance had.

We had that if anything, we're just like, this is the way that we see the world, which is definitely more of an Ava experience.

I don't think Ava has necessarily had the experience of her being a woman get in the way of her career.

I think she's the person who's gotten in the way of her own career.