Lucy Hale

What's up, man? I'm so happy to be here. This is, I mean, we've been trying to make this happen.

What's up, man? I'm so happy to be here. This is, I mean, we've been trying to make this happen.

I wouldn't call them roadblocks, but we had some... the universe said, not yet, pause, pause, the timing isn't right.

I wouldn't call them roadblocks, but we had some... the universe said, not yet, pause, pause, the timing isn't right.

Yeah, I mean, it was a really unbelievably confusing ride to be on because externally, how I showed up in the world, my persona was successful on a big show, like cool clothes, good eyebrows, like all the things right. But then I'd go home at night and I had this unbelievable guilt and shame for having those things.

Yeah, I mean, it was a really unbelievably confusing ride to be on because externally, how I showed up in the world, my persona was successful on a big show, like cool clothes, good eyebrows, like all the things right. But then I'd go home at night and I had this unbelievable guilt and shame for having those things.

I did. And I think that that was just a limiting belief I acquired at some point as a kid of thinking that... receiving meant selfish or that receiving meant you weren't grateful. And like, I just had this idea that I needed to humble myself. And so I felt really guilty for a lot of the things I had. And I want to say that that sort of shame. To me, shame is the lowest you can get as a human.

I did. And I think that that was just a limiting belief I acquired at some point as a kid of thinking that... receiving meant selfish or that receiving meant you weren't grateful. And like, I just had this idea that I needed to humble myself. And so I felt really guilty for a lot of the things I had. And I want to say that that sort of shame. To me, shame is the lowest you can get as a human.

I think it's like the worst feeling. I think it's a really scary place to be in. And I want to say that that shame is what fueled the drinking and the numbing out. Because subconsciously, I was sabotaging my life. Because I was saying I wanted success. I was saying I wanted a great relationship. I was saying I wanted

I think it's like the worst feeling. I think it's a really scary place to be in. And I want to say that that shame is what fueled the drinking and the numbing out. Because subconsciously, I was sabotaging my life. Because I was saying I wanted success. I was saying I wanted a great relationship. I was saying I wanted

you know, to be respected, but I was doing things, at the time I wasn't conscious of them, but I was doing things, I was trying to implode my life because I felt like a fraud. Wow. And now, without getting too deep into it, I believe that we all have souls and I believe that my soul really needed to learn the lesson of unconditional self-love and unconditional self-worth.

you know, to be respected, but I was doing things, at the time I wasn't conscious of them, but I was doing things, I was trying to implode my life because I felt like a fraud. Wow. And now, without getting too deep into it, I believe that we all have souls and I believe that my soul really needed to learn the lesson of unconditional self-love and unconditional self-worth.

And so I believe that my soul always knew I was going to go through this and that I really do. And I'm sure I could talk about this forever of like why I think we're here on the planet, but, but one of my big lessons was.

And so I believe that my soul always knew I was going to go through this and that I really do. And I'm sure I could talk about this forever of like why I think we're here on the planet, but, but one of my big lessons was.

learning to love myself, even though I had done things that I knew were out of alignment with my truth, you know, and and really like understanding why I was making certain decisions and like really getting curious about why do I want to sabotage my life? Why do I dislike myself so much? And you know, and then it took

learning to love myself, even though I had done things that I knew were out of alignment with my truth, you know, and and really like understanding why I was making certain decisions and like really getting curious about why do I want to sabotage my life? Why do I dislike myself so much? And you know, and then it took

the path of sobriety and to me it's sobriety represents so much more than just not drinking or doing drugs. It represents getting to the core of the wound and then getting your life back in alignment. Um, and it took like 15 years of trial. Yeah, man. Like I, I struggled heavily at the peak of my success with the TV shows on pretty little liars. I was at my absolute darkest, most shameful.

the path of sobriety and to me it's sobriety represents so much more than just not drinking or doing drugs. It represents getting to the core of the wound and then getting your life back in alignment. Um, and it took like 15 years of trial. Yeah, man. Like I, I struggled heavily at the peak of my success with the TV shows on pretty little liars. I was at my absolute darkest, most shameful.

And so like that juxtaposition was unbelievable to me because and it's and it's really proof that you can have all the things you say you want and still feel empty because what was happening for me is I thought everything outside of me was going to make me happy. I thought the job the boy, the money, the whatever. I was like, that's really going to fix me. And shocker, it doesn't.

And so like that juxtaposition was unbelievable to me because and it's and it's really proof that you can have all the things you say you want and still feel empty because what was happening for me is I thought everything outside of me was going to make me happy. I thought the job the boy, the money, the whatever. I was like, that's really going to fix me. And shocker, it doesn't.