Lucy Hale

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The School of Greatness · Lucy Hale: Her Darkest Years Came at the Peak of Fame · 30 Apr 2025 podcast

What's up, man? I'm so happy to be here. This is, I mean, we've been trying to make this happen.

I wouldn't call them roadblocks, but we had some... the universe said, not yet, pause, pause, the timing isn't right.

Yeah, I mean, it was a really unbelievably confusing ride to be on because externally, how I showed up in the world, my persona was successful on a big show, like cool clothes, good eyebrows, like all the things right. But then I'd go home at night and I had this unbelievable guilt and shame for having those things.

I did. And I think that that was just a limiting belief I acquired at some point as a kid of thinking that... receiving meant selfish or that receiving meant you weren't grateful. And like, I just had this idea that I needed to humble myself. And so I felt really guilty for a lot of the things I had. And I want to say that that sort of shame. To me, shame is the lowest you can get as a human.

I think it's like the worst feeling. I think it's a really scary place to be in. And I want to say that that shame is what fueled the drinking and the numbing out. Because subconsciously, I was sabotaging my life. Because I was saying I wanted success. I was saying I wanted a great relationship. I was saying I wanted

you know, to be respected, but I was doing things, at the time I wasn't conscious of them, but I was doing things, I was trying to implode my life because I felt like a fraud. Wow. And now, without getting too deep into it, I believe that we all have souls and I believe that my soul really needed to learn the lesson of unconditional self-love and unconditional self-worth.

And so I believe that my soul always knew I was going to go through this and that I really do. And I'm sure I could talk about this forever of like why I think we're here on the planet, but, but one of my big lessons was.

learning to love myself, even though I had done things that I knew were out of alignment with my truth, you know, and and really like understanding why I was making certain decisions and like really getting curious about why do I want to sabotage my life? Why do I dislike myself so much? And you know, and then it took

the path of sobriety and to me it's sobriety represents so much more than just not drinking or doing drugs. It represents getting to the core of the wound and then getting your life back in alignment. Um, and it took like 15 years of trial. Yeah, man. Like I, I struggled heavily at the peak of my success with the TV shows on pretty little liars. I was at my absolute darkest, most shameful.

And so like that juxtaposition was unbelievable to me because and it's and it's really proof that you can have all the things you say you want and still feel empty because what was happening for me is I thought everything outside of me was going to make me happy. I thought the job the boy, the money, the whatever. I was like, that's really going to fix me. And shocker, it doesn't.

So yeah, it took a lot of trial and error, a lot of really trying. It's not that I didn't try. I really, really, really always wanted to feel better and to understand myself more. And I had many rock bottoms, though, that would have appeared worse on paper. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Some I'll take to the grave with me.

A lot of rock bottoms, a lot of scary rock bottoms, a lot of really sad rock bottoms, losing relationships, you know, my own physical danger, losing my career, like all of these things. But the moment I got sober, it was the first time I had experienced like a spiritual intervention because that's really... I can still cry thinking about this moment because it was so visceral.

It was... Where were you?

I was in Austin, Texas. Okay. I love Austin. I need to go back and make new memories there. But it wasn't like a crazy time. Like nothing really quote unquote bad happened.

I mean, I had in the past, but this time it wasn't. I just remember I woke up and it was almost just like I knew that if I did not change my life from that moment forward, I was going to lose everything.

And maybe even my life. Like it was that it was that clear to me and it was a sensation I felt and I felt the presence of you know, a higher power that loved me a lot and was like, listen, listen, girl, you know, it's not too late because I felt like it was too late because I had tried for years and years and years.

So I didn't start all the spiritual stuff until that's the place I'm in now.

But I mean like rehab, inpatient, outpatient, every type of medication. You know, I did try religion. I tried everything. Everything. And nothing really... nothing stuck for me. And I really think that's because I believe patterns repeat in your life until all the lessons are learned. The same people will keep showing up. You'll keep making the same habits.

Everything will continue on until you've like really wrung out that rag of all the lessons. And my God, for some reason, my soul's like, no, again, again, again. And I really did

learn a lot about myself and and you know through those 15 years of what I was running away from I mean I didn't even realize until I actually got sober and like had the clarity and clear mind for a year like how much sadness and rage and anger I was holding on to that was so old wow like it felt ancient and

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