Luigi Vendittelli

Exactly.

And then it also shows how judgmental we are if they open up about it.

Yeah.

Yes, it did.

It all started with a potential collector quality die cast model.

You were just trying to make a product?

I just wanted to make a product because I'm a merchandiser.

And I thought, let me make a really good flying saucer for everybody to have at home.

And I got Bob's attention.

And he was impressed.

He basically asked me.

I finally got to talk to Bob Lazar.

And, you know...

No, that was actually, it was really a shot in the dark.

I thought, I could do this without Bob Lazar.

I spent months researching the whole story and as much of information I could find online about the sport model flying saucer.

And there was a lot of information that was really unclear.

I couldn't understand which part was real, which part, some telephone game over the years, people changing stuff.

So I said, let me try reaching out to him and at least see if he's willing to guide me in correcting just a few things and put his stamp of approval.

And that would make it so much more interesting.