Luisa Zisman

Because I don't think on my conscience I could.

And even if that is a parenting failure or my child is actually sick in the head, if I would like to think I'd recognise I need help.

So I think doing this, but from the overall umbrella on it is that every single one of those agencies, including the parents...

did the whole shoving it to someone else, shoving it to someone else.

And I believe that there is now real question over there has to be a lead agency in these cases that do hold themselves accountable to these situations.

Because to your point, Lou, we cannot keep having this happening.

I mean, Christ alive, if I knew that my son was buying weapons, going into school with weapons, looking at dangerous material, I don't know if he was or he wasn't,

My God, you cannot turn a blind eye to this.

Because it escalates.

I don't even allow my son to have toy guns or weapons in the house because I don't.

And I say to him, he's like, there's no good that can come of this.

There is no good of it.

I appreciate you do your little shooter games or people like them.

I don't think that's good.

I don't think it's healthy.

And I think also that raises the question that this Axel dies.

Do we even think that we should put them in prison to serve a sentence?

Well, I was just going to say, this Axel dies.

I just think, just fucking send them back.

But then I think, aren't there laws that if you have to serve the time in the country that you've done the crime?