Luisa Zisman

Now, I don't believe at the moment they are being criminally held accountable, but morally, yes.

is my understanding of this.

So on that... In which case, what do you think?

So I believe then on that, I feel so strongly about parents taking responsibility for parenting their children and implementing boundaries.

And I think if we're going to hold any other agency to account here, then I think they should.

So if we were to hold anyone to account and therefore they have a consequence as a result of that, I do think the parents should too.

I think I'm sick and tired of parents being, of pushing the buck now.

You know, I even saw something on the telly this morning about one in three children aren't toilet trained, you know, and saying teachers should be held responsible to...

But also, if that means there has to be skill sets implemented... I sometimes want to be a lazy parent.

I do too.

Because I'm fucking tired and it's hard.

But you can't be.

So here's the question, Lou.

If one of your children... And I know it's really, really difficult to answer this.

So hard when it's your child.

And also, we don't know.

But if one of your children...

were displaying violent tendencies and not listening even to boundaries that you were putting in place about what they might be up to, if you had severe worries about your child, would you go to the police or agencies and raise your significant concern?

I would like to think that, yes, I would.

I would.