Luke Caverns
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
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Whatever problem it was, you just hoped that the God of the temple you're going to visit would visit you in your dream and help heal you.
um well supposedly there's scant research to suggest that of course all this is scant we're dealing with the ancient world um uh that these people may have been consuming things or drinking some kind of wine or like a like a beer an ancient beer and we don't know if those beers were infused anything to make the dreams more vivid you know but you know like uh
For anybody that's watching, if you ever smoked weed or something and you go dream or you take melatonin, you'll have intense dreams there.
And so there's this idea that there may have been psychedelics, mild psychedelics that the Egyptians had access to, maybe the blue lotus that's being infused in these wines or beers that they're drinking, or maybe they're even smoking something to enhance their dream as they fall asleep. And I wondered if I was laying down in the temple of Komombo. I'm sorry.
I was laying down in the temple of King Canoom, and he's just this ram-headed god. And he has this beautiful temple, and he's got the night sky on his temple. And even at Dendera, there's like this beautiful blue night sky, and you have the goddess Nut going up and down. She's the Milky Way. And you're laying down there, and you can only imagine the torches like sparkling on the night sky.
and you're seeing this column that's acting as the stem of the blue Lotus and the blue Lotus is blooming into the night sky. And it made me wonder symbolically it, maybe it's undetectable, but is that symbolic of the fact that the blue Lotus is the gateway into the outer world? Does that make sense?
Because it's certainly very like a Mayanist way to interpret things, but I wonder if that's needed, you know, somebody with somebody with, uh,
highly symbolic perspective on the ancient world coming into Egypt and seeing something that an Egyptologist who was introduced to the Egyptian world from reading an Egyptology textbook you grow up within parameters right and you can't see outside the parameters it takes someone else with a different perspective to come in and see that and that was one of the ideas I had too is are these columns that are blooming into the night sky from the lotus flower is it symbolic of the fact that that is the path to get to this night sky outer world because
The Egyptians viewed all the stars in the night sky as being the places where the gods lived and where their ancestors lived. And so they didn't know that they were giant balls of gas in space. And so it makes me wonder if that lotus flower, another purpose of it is to consume it, to have vivid dreams.
that call upon the essence of these gods or ancestors to come down into your sleep and heal you, something akin to that. And dreams are so important in Egyptian society. One of the very first stories we have from Egypt is the story of Joseph, of the Bible in Egypt. maybe during the Middle Kingdom, sometime between 1600 and 1800 BC.
And whether or not he was a real figure, we still have this ancient story of a man who was profoundly gifted at interpreting dreams. And so much so that when he's in prison in Egypt, he's brought up to the palace to start interpreting the Pharaoh's dreams. Well, then we have stories that come down to us, whether they're true or not, it's either Jozer or it's Imhotep.
It might be Jozer that is having these dreams where either Horus or Ra is disappointed in Jozer's reign and he wants him to build some kind of grand monument to bring favor and honor back to the God to bring favor on Egypt. So that's 2700 BC as far as we know that Jozer and Imhotep
have this dream that inspires the first the first pyramid you know so there's just this very important aspect of dreams there but there's no archaeological evidence for dreams right so it's it's just this interesting vast very dense topic that i've been wrapped up in um if if you go back to the to the paper ryan really quickly though i mean what are your thoughts
It's very polarizing, controversial, you know, I was telling one of my close friends, I love the guy to death. He's a Roman historian. I was talking to him about it when we were in Egypt, and I could see him grimacing at this. He just knew it was controversial, and if I go down this route, it's going to be controversial, even though it's nothing that crazy. It's really not. No, no.
Yeah, so... The place where the highest quantity of these vases were being made. Ryan, on my paper, I think I have maybe something written about this where it might be Egypt in the vases or Blue Lotus in the vases. Okay, Egypt in the vases. There we go. Okay, yeah, you're already on it. All right, so if you'd scroll into the first section.
So let's start off with my idea of why granite and diorite are being used over softer stones like alabaster this early on. So I put down, the main thing that I see proposed in most textbooks is, is this a luxury or prestige item? I've even seen the little lug handles. They'll call them necklaces like you have over here on your alien. That's what a lot of people do.
Ross, yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, Ross. I didn't mean to. He's easily offended. But I've seen a lot of people propose that they could have been necklaces or they're luxury prestige items. I loved Ryan's idea that he was equating them to like watches, where, well, a watch doesn't have a greater purpose other than telling time, but it's an art piece, right?
It's something to, we don't question why we obsess over watches, right? I liked that. So in later Egyptian society, statues of pharaohs and gods are carved from stones like granite and diorite. Does the type of stone indicate wealth? Does it indicate wealth only because it's a harder stone? Or is there another thus far invisible significance to it? Like, does the color matter?
Whereas in the Olmec world, the color of stone might matter.
I think so. Um, From what I can gather is that the Egyptians don't put a preference on a type of stone just because it's hard. From what I can tell. Although there's, of course, contradictory evidence to that. But, you know, at least in later dynasties, like we were talking about earlier, there are sarcophagi that are made out of gray whack.
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