Luke King

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And Jeddah has big potential to become a project cargo break-bulk hub, right?

And last time when we were at Break Bolt Europe, we were hearing from the ports in Northern Europe bemoaning the lack of space that they've got to store project cargo.

And I think I remember you saying it's obviously not a problem that you've got.

So what issues do you have?

It can't all be plain sailing.

So when you were talking about those Northern European ports, is that what you were suggesting?

That actually the project cargo could come to you, stay for a while before they go on to Europe?

Is that what you were suggesting?

More cooperation with the European ports?

Absolutely cooperation.

And you touched on the expat situation.

How do localization, Saudi, what is it?

How do you say it?

Is it Saudi-ization?

It's difficult to say, isn't it?

And you mentioned earlier the international strategy.

Will you guys look at opening multipurpose terminals, new multipurpose businesses outside of Saudi Arabia?