Luke O'Neill

So it's a big fear.

I mean, they're cutting pretty much everything that might be useful going forward, and even stuff that we depended upon in the past.

Yeah.

Undermining.

Undermining.

There's a $30 billion cut in science funding in America overall, which is a lot of money.

And you can imagine, in fact, the scientists are saying, oh, look, we can't do our jobs, you know.

And then younger scientists are leaving their profession because of this lack of support.

But, of course, Pat, he's picked two areas that he doesn't want to fund.

Renewables.

And vaccines.

If you work in those areas and you're in America, you're persona non grata, basically.

So the two big ones that I'm most worried about.

Now, you can point to RFK Jr.

as the architect, I suppose, of the anti-vaccine movement.

And Trump has just gone along with them.

I mean, how many measles outbreaks will it take before they see sense?

Well, here's the evidence.

They see science loves evidence for things, and they sometimes deny the evidence, but it's the biggest measles outbreak since 1991 in America at the moment.

So measles is now spreading, which is disastrous because it's a very dangerous disease.