Luke Rosiak

I mean, one of the guys was making like $10 million a year or something like that.

His name is Omar Omar.

And that's like all we know about him.

There's Mohammed Ahmed and Ahmed Mohammed.

And these things get all jumbled up in the government computer systems.

They don't have birth dates for a lot of these people.

If you look them up in public records, it just says January 1st because they may not even know when they were born.

And so it is important, I think, for policy members to keep that in mind.

Our systems are susceptible to fraud by foreign-born people because our systems have a harder time tracking them, not to mention the fact that they also have the ability to send money abroad in places where we can't track it and also flee abroad.

But it's just a sort of a parallel world that I think fraud investigators and police and policymakers work

are totally uncomfortable or don't have the knowledge to navigate, which is in itself just, I think, an intolerable policy deficit.

One of the guys chased me down a hallway saying, I'm going to tell everybody you're racist.

And we're just saying, well, we're just asking about the government program.

And we're just knocking on doors, whatever the dollar amounts are reported in the government database.

And he says, you're only knocking on Somali doors.

I'm just going to tell everybody you're racist.

And it did kind of seem like a threat.

It seemed like a strategy.

Like, that's my strategy.

Pretty on the nose there.