Luke Stedman

Well, for us, I think it's up about 20% year on year, which is pretty good for the pub industry.

I think a lot of publicans around the country, if they were up kind of that much, they'd say, well, happy days.

But unfortunately, a lot of the bigger pubs are getting bigger.

A lot of the smaller pubs are kind of being phased out around the country for one reason or another.

A lot of that is due to the support that they're getting or the lack of.

But the pub culture is very important in Ireland.

So as much as big pubs getting bigger is great for us, we kind of still want to see that culture developing across the board in the country.

Yeah, there will be.

I think something like 2,000 pubs have disappeared since 2005, which is far too many.

It's small, family-owned pubs.

People who grew up in pubs are now just having to leave the industry.

I mean, it's very tough.

In the city centre, we're doing okay.

We're doing great.

We're destination pubs.

People come in, they get their drink, but...

Smaller pubs in the countryside really are struggling and they're closing down.

Well, food and music kind of adds an additional cost, of course.

We have a very simple product.

It's tried, it's tested.