Luke Thomas

That's the problem that you get.

So if there was a structured debate with a worthy adversary, I think it would be in everyone's interest to have more people participating in things like that.

Yeah, I think we'll need more structure, more than ever.

And on a basic level, if you're going to do this, and again, debating is a separate skill than what you know to be true and what is true, but on some level, you should be able to advocate to the world why you believe what you believe.

And they can decide how convincing it is, but you should know how to do that if you're going to do this job for a living, I think.

Um, how old are you?

You're 28?

28.

Yeah.

Um, I don't know how many things like that you've seen in the world.

That was the first time.

yeah uh well i mean okay domestically that's the first time i've seen something like that in a really really really long time you know remember i'm old enough to see some some i'm sure this will come as a great surprise to your audience that i'm old but um you know i was and i'm not comparing the two but i'm saying what kind of um public horrors have i witnessed dude today's 9 11. i was in i was in my dorm room senior year in college when i watched that klaus on tv

I was in, uh, was I in, I can't remember, was I in high school?

No, I think it was, uh, I was in middle school when the Oklahoma city bombing took place.

It killed over a hundred people.

Like I've seen some crazy ass shit.

And again, I know this is, I'm not trying to compare everything to that.

I'm not saying that these are all on the same level.

That's really not my point, but to see, uh, my own, my basic point is that to see a public horror in that way, it is, um, it challenges your spirit, right?

Well, we're still trying to gather information.