Lulu Garcia Navarro

And then we just saw two YouTubers dominate the box office.

One of them, Kane Parsons, the director of Backrooms, is 20.

He was 16 when he made the YouTube video the movie is based on.

And then Curry Barker, the director of Obsession, is 26.

These have just been like huge successes.

I mean, what do you make of that?

Hollywood always seems to be in the middle of like an angsty crisis.

Variety called what just happened with these two YouTubers a, quote, tectonic shift in Hollywood that sent shockwaves through the industry.

I do wonder, first of all, what you make of that.

I mean, do you think that's overstating what just happened?

Because I guess what I think is so alluring to executives is that YouTubers, as you just mentioned, have cheap technology that they can use to get millions of eyeballs.

They can workshop an idea and then have a built-in audience.

So I guess it takes the guesswork out of selling tickets.

So I'm just wondering how you see it since you already were tracking him for so long.

Let me ask you, just as an aside, what makes a good pitch?

You know what I mean?

People pitch you, I'm sure.

So I'm just curious.

Yeah.

One of the other sort of big disruptors in Hollywood is, of course, AI.