Lulu Garcia Navarro

I just want to understand something clearly. Donald Trump was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. He's been accused by many women.

I just want to understand something clearly. Donald Trump was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil court. He's been accused by many women.

There are other women who have. I've interviewed some of them.

There are other women who have. I've interviewed some of them.

Do you see yourself as a journalist still? Or would you not describe yourself like that anymore?

Do you see yourself as a journalist still? Or would you not describe yourself like that anymore?

Do you think you could be at Fox now in the way that you were before?

Do you think you could be at Fox now in the way that you were before?

What's left if that happens? I mean, the way that the algorithms work now is that, I agree with you, they elevate individuals, that you have a personal relationship with them, but you're given more of the same thing that you want, right? So if I like Megyn Kelly, I might get Megyn Kelly-adjacent So however great Megyn Kelly may or may not be, that is a very narrow slice of what's out there.

What's left if that happens? I mean, the way that the algorithms work now is that, I agree with you, they elevate individuals, that you have a personal relationship with them, but you're given more of the same thing that you want, right? So if I like Megyn Kelly, I might get Megyn Kelly-adjacent So however great Megyn Kelly may or may not be, that is a very narrow slice of what's out there.

After the break, I call Megan back, and she says what we were both thinking.

After the break, I call Megan back, and she says what we were both thinking.

Hi. Hi. I was thinking a lot about our conversation and you were talking about how you still consider yourself a journalist, even though the way you do the work has sort of changed over time.

Hi. Hi. I was thinking a lot about our conversation and you were talking about how you still consider yourself a journalist, even though the way you do the work has sort of changed over time.

And so I did want to ask you, as someone who supports the president, what you make of the various ways that he attacks the press from calling reporters the enemy of the people to sort of popularizing the term fake news, sometimes calling out individual reporters. What do you make of that dynamic?

And so I did want to ask you, as someone who supports the president, what you make of the various ways that he attacks the press from calling reporters the enemy of the people to sort of popularizing the term fake news, sometimes calling out individual reporters. What do you make of that dynamic?

President Trump has chosen a lot of people who are in the media, especially on Fox for his administration. The most high profile, of course, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, whom you worked with, Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino. There are many others. As someone who spent so much time in that world, I'm curious what you make of that. I'm excited about it.

President Trump has chosen a lot of people who are in the media, especially on Fox for his administration. The most high profile, of course, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, whom you worked with, Deputy Director of the FBI Dan Bongino. There are many others. As someone who spent so much time in that world, I'm curious what you make of that. I'm excited about it.

Well, you interviewed him, and it was a fair interview, a tough interview. But you opened it by saying, you know, that he was a friend. You said, I've been really dismayed by the amount of pylon that he's been suffering, and I've been outraged by the unfairness of the media's coverage of the allegations, and that's a direct quote.

Well, you interviewed him, and it was a fair interview, a tough interview. But you opened it by saying, you know, that he was a friend. You said, I've been really dismayed by the amount of pylon that he's been suffering, and I've been outraged by the unfairness of the media's coverage of the allegations, and that's a direct quote.