Lulu Garcia Navarro

Well, speaking of politics, that brings us to something that happened since we last spoke as well, which is a big earthquake in your adopted city of New York.

New Mayor Zoran Mamdani, who has very much scared, I think, the plutocratic class.

I know.

I mean, tell me, what does his rise, do you think, say about how people are feeling about the elite world of tastemakers that you came up in and the elite in general?

You know, one of the things I really thought about since our last conversation is how valuable it is to have people with a wide lens on history talking about this sort of very strange, very unsettling moment, which is one of the reasons I wanted to talk to you.

But it also made me think about your late husband, Harry Evans, who was a legendary journalist in his own right.

He was 25 years older than you.

Did he see things differently than you because you were from different generations?

And did he help give you a different perspective?

Hmm.

He passed away five years ago.

Yes.

I'm just wondering how you have dealt with that loss because it was a real partnership.

I mean, you mentioned your children.

You wrote an essay in this paper last year talking about your son who has a developmental disability.

He lives with you.

He's in his late 30s.

I imagine that having a son who's part of a very vulnerable sector of society has changed your perspective on power and its uses.

How was it when your son moved out?

I mean, it must have been bittersweet.