Lulu Garcia Navarro

And I'm interested in that you had gotten sick of yourself.

What did that mean?

What did you do during that period where you took a step back?

Because that was a two and a half year period where you weren't actually out in front.

You got married.

It was COVID.

So there's reasons for all of that.

But how were you recalibrating during that period?

Do you find it hard to be your authentic self when you're trying to interact with the public because of what you went through?

Because I saw you at this press conference that you gave in Spain, and you seem a lot more reserved than you used to be, more careful, more considered.

And I'm just wondering if that is deliberate.

I mean, I'm gonna break the fourth wall here, but I mean, it's always a strange thing to do, right?

I'm a journalist asking you questions.

I obviously want you to give revealing answers and you have to protect yourself as an artist and as a private person in the world.

And so I often think about how complicated that dance is, especially for women.

I mean, do you think as a female artist,

that you have been treated differently than perhaps other men because you were young, you were open to the world in a way that perhaps other people aren't.

You didn't seem so jaded, I think.

After the break, Jennifer tells me about being politically outspoken early in her career and why she's approaching things differently now.

I did want to ask you about your relationship with some of your directors because you have been with directors who are known as being very difficult, challenging directors, people who are auteurs, have really clear visions.