Madeline Martin

And then you'd go tell them.

And

You know, I will say most of the time, I feel like as a young, especially because I was so young, like 16 is still very young to me now looking back.

So I was 18.

Yeah, yeah.

Especially like looking back now, and I just was so young.

And at that age, I feel like most of the time, the babysitter or the dog sitter, most of the time, if you're a girl, you have contact with the wife and the woman, which I feel like is just kind of,

I don't feel like it's like you making it weird, but I feel like it's just kind of normal.

As a woman, you are the one to contact the babysitter and just, you know, I don't know, maybe, you know.

No, I agree.

I just feel like that's kind of common practice.

I don't know.

But, and that really was how it was with everybody else.

But with him, he was like,

The one that I was contacting, always.

I had his phone number, and I did have the wife's phone number, but she was never the one to reach out and say, hey, we're going on vacation.

Can you come over and watch the dogs or whatever?

So you would sleep there too?

Yes.

I'll kind of get into all that once I kind of explain his dynamic with his family because—