Madeline Martin

Like, you know, most of the time it's just like the man works and, you know, hangs out with the kids and whatever.

It's not really like,

does all of the booking the vacations and all of that like jazz at, you know, it's just very traditional, I think.

And it was just kind of a different dynamic than I was used to because no one else that I'd ever really seen or grew up like around, no one else kind of had that same

you know, dynamic in their family.

And like I said, I never met the sons, so I don't really know what their, you know, relationship was like with him.

But from what I knew, it wasn't like,

you know, great.

They weren't very close.

At least with one of them, it wasn't great.

They just weren't very close.

No, it was just two sons.

Got it.

So let me also preface by saying this too.

He had someone very close to him.

I'm not going to say her name, but she was his son's age.

And let's just call her...

Faith.

Let's just call her Faith.

So Faith was the age of his sons or like around that age.