Madeline Martin
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Podcast Appearances
him and keep in mind, like he had been our family friend for like 10 years at this point before I had ever even.
So this is like when I first started having contact when I was dog sitting for them or whatever.
But before that he was friends with like my, not really my mom, but like my dad and my brother.
Cause he was, my brother's younger than me.
So he, because of the disc golf thing, he really was a big part of my,
my mom, my dad, and my brother's lives.
My sister really doesn't have anything to do with this because she was working and stuff.
And she really never had anything to do with it.
But when I started to step into it, the whole thing is, you know, he had been around for a long time.
So I was definitely interacting with him more.
But I was interacting with everybody more.
So it wasn't necessarily like it was weird.
So that happened.
And my mom was like, you know, or I think it was both of them, honestly.
My mom and dad were like, maybe he's like taking too much pain medicine or something.
Because he did have back problems.
Like it was kind of like a big deal.
Like everybody knew.
So they were just, you know, maybe he's taking too many pills or something.