Maggie Haberman

And so I think you will hear that as justification for why this is happening. But in reality, I suspect this was going to happen anyway.

And so I think you will hear that as justification for why this is happening. But in reality, I suspect this was going to happen anyway.

Well, I think that's actually always been true. It's just that presidents have tended to try to abide by norms. I don't know that – and I have enormous respect for Ezra.

Well, I think that's actually always been true. It's just that presidents have tended to try to abide by norms. I don't know that – and I have enormous respect for Ezra.

And he's not even here to defend himself. I'll send him an email saying the same thing. I don't know that I would describe this as sort of submission to the – New presidency, I think President Biden had enough agency that he didn't have to do something he said he wasn't going to do. And I think that people have to own their own choices.

And he's not even here to defend himself. I'll send him an email saying the same thing. I don't know that I would describe this as sort of submission to the – New presidency, I think President Biden had enough agency that he didn't have to do something he said he wasn't going to do. And I think that people have to own their own choices.

And at a certain point, the broad excuse of I had to do X because Trump, I don't think has served Democrats especially well over the last eight years. Those pardons are not all the same. I've talked to a bunch of former Biden administration officials. most of whom felt as if the ones for Fauci and Mark Milley, they understood.

And at a certain point, the broad excuse of I had to do X because Trump, I don't think has served Democrats especially well over the last eight years. Those pardons are not all the same. I've talked to a bunch of former Biden administration officials. most of whom felt as if the ones for Fauci and Mark Milley, they understood.

Those are both older men who were clearly going to be targeted in very specific ways. Mark Milley was risking getting recalled to active duty and court-martialed and all kinds of punishments like that. The House Select Committee preemptive pardons, most people I spoke to in the administration did not love them. The family member ones are the ones that people were very upset about.

Those are both older men who were clearly going to be targeted in very specific ways. Mark Milley was risking getting recalled to active duty and court-martialed and all kinds of punishments like that. The House Select Committee preemptive pardons, most people I spoke to in the administration did not love them. The family member ones are the ones that people were very upset about.

I'm putting aside Hunter Biden, which most people in Biden's world defended. But the preemptive pardons for various members of Biden's family struck them as a misuse of that power.

I'm putting aside Hunter Biden, which most people in Biden's world defended. But the preemptive pardons for various members of Biden's family struck them as a misuse of that power.

Well, it was interesting. What Trump proceeded to talk about was alleged money-making by President Biden before he was president. He was accusing Biden of having taken in all kinds of money from work that his relatives were doing off his name, essentially. Again, prior to the presidency, Biden's been an

Well, it was interesting. What Trump proceeded to talk about was alleged money-making by President Biden before he was president. He was accusing Biden of having taken in all kinds of money from work that his relatives were doing off his name, essentially. Again, prior to the presidency, Biden's been an

Putting that aside, Biden has the same immunity as President Trump has. You know, the Supreme Court last year in a case related to President Trump's first term said that presidents have broad immunity for acts committed while in office. But what President Trump was talking about were things predating the presidency.

Putting that aside, Biden has the same immunity as President Trump has. You know, the Supreme Court last year in a case related to President Trump's first term said that presidents have broad immunity for acts committed while in office. But what President Trump was talking about were things predating the presidency.

And it does raise questions about whether he is going to try to push through some kinds of investigations. So far, the administration has taken a series of very aggressive actions against people it perceives to be Trump's enemies.

And it does raise questions about whether he is going to try to push through some kinds of investigations. So far, the administration has taken a series of very aggressive actions against people it perceives to be Trump's enemies.

David was talking earlier about the risk that has been created for some people, potentially, with the freeing of certain January 6th planners or plotters in taking away people's security details. Trump is sending a pretty clear message to Iran that, you know, it may not bother him that much if something happens to these people. And that is what is alarming, folks.

David was talking earlier about the risk that has been created for some people, potentially, with the freeing of certain January 6th planners or plotters in taking away people's security details. Trump is sending a pretty clear message to Iran that, you know, it may not bother him that much if something happens to these people. And that is what is alarming, folks.