Maksym Rokhmaniko
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So we were building this multidimensional model, which was increasingly filled with information, not only 3D stuff, but all kinds of evidence about that particular event.
And connected together, those pieces of media were helping us to understand the events at Balbin Yar better.
So that's how we started the process and how it evolved through time.
We actually haven't finished that process and we were still involved in this work right before the war.
On what Linda just said about negation, we also went further to study that.
So after this massacre, there was a major concentration camp that was located directly across the street from Babiniar.
it had both male and female sections and the laborers of this camp in the end of german occupation of kiev were ordered to go to babeniare dig up all these human remains and burn them which is an extremely laborious operation that took
over a month.
And there's, again, a lot of evidence about that.
So that's the first time when you see on this specific site, this kind of violent attempt to cover up for the war crime.
And indeed, as Linda said, we know that directly after the war, there were journalists, there was an attempt to
investigate this there were there was a treatment of this site in the beginning arguably which which the site deserves because there was also a design competition for the memorial directly and it wasn't immediately that soviet union decided this is an inconvenient story for them
to address these national kinds of questions that arose here.
And yeah, then basically the last chapter of our research was focused on this.
shift towards this idea that actually this story is not very kind of positive the city needs to grow and these ravines are on the way of the city growth this this is kind of the language that the witnesses that we interviewed or read their their testimonies said and you know that chapter is basically about this whole
territory being terraformed with kind of building these soil dams and filling filling the ravines with liquid soil which came as a byproduct of a brick factory nearby so we studied that chapter as well and you know i mean it's you you would imagine that there's no uh kind of like not any more room for horrible things to happen here but of course when
When Soviets tried to fill the ravines with this liquid mud, one of the dams broke through and, you know, destroyed basically the whole area downstream from Babiniar, which is known in history of Kyiv as a Kurunivska mudslide.
So this story, in these three chapters of, you know, the events of the occupation themselves,
the concentration camps and the attempt to cover up for the war crimes, and the erasure of Bobignare, those three chapters were the main kinds of territories where we conducted our research.
Yeah, I mean, it's a difficult question because in a way, I mean, that shift is almost subconscious, right?
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