Malcolm Gladwell

And I was listening to tapes of him speaking, and he sounded like the whitest guy I could imagine.

And you gave... Wait, tell me a little... Before we even get into this, it was so much fun, your answer. Explain to me why that would be so...

And you gave... Wait, tell me a little... Before we even get into this, it was so much fun, your answer. Explain to me why that would be so...

Yeah. Didn't I say that? I think you said something along that lines. And we were, the thing, the fascinating question is when that, did that stop? It stopped. Yeah. He doesn't sound like that if he's the mayor of Los Angeles today.

Yeah. Didn't I say that? I think you said something along that lines. And we were, the thing, the fascinating question is when that, did that stop? It stopped. Yeah. He doesn't sound like that if he's the mayor of Los Angeles today.

The minute... I mentioned Tom Brady to you, you were like, oh! I remember I played you a tape. You were like, oh! And I realized, oh, this is old hat for John. This is what it means to be a linguist. You're constantly entertaining, asking yourself those kinds of questions. You can't let a... More or less.

The minute... I mentioned Tom Brady to you, you were like, oh! I remember I played you a tape. You were like, oh! And I realized, oh, this is old hat for John. This is what it means to be a linguist. You're constantly entertaining, asking yourself those kinds of questions. You can't let a... More or less.

When you say you have... This sounds like a fantastic obsession, by the way. How does that, like... Is this something you do sort of for fun? In other words, do you have places you go to find these historical... Or are you just watching a movie from the 30s and you stop it and you go back five minutes and you play up a... Both of those things.

When you say you have... This sounds like a fantastic obsession, by the way. How does that, like... Is this something you do sort of for fun? In other words, do you have places you go to find these historical... Or are you just watching a movie from the 30s and you stop it and you go back five minutes and you play up a... Both of those things.

When did you, at what point in your career, life, whatever, did you realize that this was something of particular interest to you?

When did you, at what point in your career, life, whatever, did you realize that this was something of particular interest to you?

John, you've got to do better than that. You can't say, for some reason, it interests me. You've got to tell me. You've got to tell us more than that.

John, you've got to do better than that. You can't say, for some reason, it interests me. You've got to tell me. You've got to tell us more than that.

Wait, my wife, who's black, she uses that, that's where it comes from. What? She sticks head in the craziest places.

Wait, my wife, who's black, she uses that, that's where it comes from. What? She sticks head in the craziest places.

Yeah. Today she said, I had went. Now understand, this is a highly educated, went to Princeton corporate lawyer. She just takes head and just kind of like... shovels it in randomly into her sentences.

Yeah. Today she said, I had went. Now understand, this is a highly educated, went to Princeton corporate lawyer. She just takes head and just kind of like... shovels it in randomly into her sentences.

So her father... Wait, I want to... Her father grew up in both Harlem and Jacksonville, Florida. Mm-hmm. And he would be growing up in the 50s.

So her father... Wait, I want to... Her father grew up in both Harlem and Jacksonville, Florida. Mm-hmm. And he would be growing up in the 50s.

Now, you said something earlier that you didn't speak black English growing up. Why not? That's deep, Malcolm, actually.