Mara Wilson

And especially in Los Angeles, it's such a thing.

And I was like, oh my God, I know someone that could speak to this so clearly.

And you didn't come out of a nightmare situation.

Maybe we should sort of start by how you got into this space as well, because I can't imagine being your age as a kid and being in front of a camera or even thinking about that.

How did that even begin for you?

They hear NBC and they're like, oh, we know how you got in.

Yeah.

I still forget that here, that that is in the culture so deeply.

Yeah, that should come from me.

Which is mad when you think about that.

Yeah.

But it was a normal thing.

You see some of those people on mainstream talk shows back then as well and the way the hosts treat them and the kind of questions they have.

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When we started this podcast, Flightless Bird, many years ago now, it seemed like we had to figure it all out from scratch.

The scripts, the setup, when we were going to film this thing.

We didn't even film it back then.

It was crazy.